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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    India already has Amogh Carbines so why again bother about purchasing?
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    We already have Ghatak Rifle why go for new foreign rifle?
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Guess which rifle is this? After this Indian army will not need anything any more.
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    You fail to read them properly within context. Look I never said said about the rifle itself but about rate of fire. Otherwise I know STG 44 was world's first true assault rifle so stop misinterpreting my post. I clearly stated that American soldiers with M1 Gerand had better advantage because...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    You open. According to OFB site, Kalanatak has very low recoil so offers greater accuracy in full automatic mode, so I suppose Indian army should opt for Kalantak. Excalibur goes to BSF and other paramilitary forces, ITBP gets Ghatak, other paramilitary forces get INSAS 1B1. Amogh is issued to...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Open a separate thread. I can counter it too. But not here.
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Okay then for sake of your information I am giving you one example. In 1971 when the war broke out IAF sent Hawker Hunters to attack the Dhaka airbase. Those Hawkers were laden with bombs and rockets. The attack failed and we lost seval aircraft to PAF CAP Sabers and AA. It forced IAF to change...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Actually it is pretty complex topic. I have respect for Sundarji though. You can open a new thread I will talk about it.
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Indian army did not have visionary leaders ever. Although separate topic is that. I have read 1962 war, how some higher rank officers misled the entire army, how Army troops were ordered to abandon fortified positions, only to be ambushed or how bomb, rocket laden Hawker Hunters were sent in...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Accuracy with high power bullet is okay. But accuracy with less powerful bullet is not desirable at the cost of fire rate. In anyway, German infantry was better than British infantry. Germans having MG 42, MG 34 and supported by MP 40 and Kar 98K was better than Brain Gun Centric British troops...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    It neither works with conventional soldiers. Australian soldiers found their 7.62mm to be more effective against Vietcong than US,s 5.56mm. So Indian army took one lesson from Vietnam war that soldiers waste too much ammunition in full auto mode but did not take account of this experience? And...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    I know about Nepalese army's INSAS. My point was Nepalese Army wanted full automatic INSAS. If Indian army took so, then today we wont be needing new rifles. Problem is not INSAS 1B1 but it's lack full auto mode, essential for COIN or anti-Pakistan operations. In side note, I can say, Indian...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Would not it make more sense if INSAS was designed to fire in auto mode? Nepalese army had it. Indian forces suffered huge losses with INSAS 1B as it did not have full auto mode. Excalibur and others have full auto mode, does it mean they also fall in carbine category? Carbines should have been...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    And we ignored our own lessons in Sri Lanka where Indian troops found SLR to be ineffective and RAW had to import 70,000 AK rifles. So the question is why did India forget her own experience and prefer US's experience? Nevertheless very soon Army gave up INSAS in COIN operations and brought Aks...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    There are thus contradictions 5.56mm round was chosen because it is lighter so soldiers can carry more ammunition. 30 round 7.62mm magazine is heavy so soldiers cant carry many 30 round magazines. Now if you say even 5.56mm 30 round magazine too is heavy then I dont know what to say. What is...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    INSAS itself weighs over 5 kg when loaded and I said to remove the bipod. The longer barrel you have better will be accuracy. Ultimately nothing will happen, Indian army will end up having another weapon in its arsenal and complicating the problem of maintenance of weapons of so diverse...
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    New Assault Rifles for Indian Army

    Instead of this whole drama we should adopt INSAS LMG without the stand. A fine rifle that would be, also cheap.
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