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I wonder when they will discover that the F-35 has Russian raw materials too

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/12/uae-says-french-fighter-jets-no-substitute-us-f-35 Rafale is not a substitute for F-35 so there goes.

UAE says French fighter jets no substitute for US F-35 - Al-Monitor: The Pulse of the Middle East The F-35 for UAE will happen, it's just a matter of negotiations since the F-35 is also used by Israel and there will need to be some understanding towards that topic.

They'll be talking about cutting the F-35 program short till 2070 :rofl::crying:

We don't know what the future holds. People who say never end up eating crow. Everything is possible

Your sore butt is showing, calm down bro. It's ok. It's just another fighter deal that the Rafale lost, by now the list is long, you should be used to it.

Some threads get boring, fact from reality is mirred and all we see is boring old arguments. Reality is the F-35 is a good 5th gen aircraft, is it perfect, no, is it better than other 4.5 gen aircraft yes. Does it have teething problems, plenty, but does it deliver the goods with a long road map...

Damn @BON PLAN I thought the Turkey was never going to win the Swiss contest.

Didn't know MCR made such a big jump in one year.

With external weapons, drops tanks etc. even the F-18SH, Rafale, EF, Gripen would have a just about 1m2, it's inevitable.

It's approved by the State Department. US won't be able to go back to Iran Nuclear Deal even if Biden Wins. That jeopardizes the track to normalization of relations with UAE, Israel and others who are discussing including Saudi. The Senate with remain Republican and House too has bigger share of...

It's already approved douchebag 😂 you have no clue how MIC works. Also, the election isn't over till the courts settle it.

https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/usa-approves-23bn-sale-of-f-35s-mq-9bs-and-thousands-of-weapons-to-uae/141067.article F-35 for UAE approved along with a massive weapons package.

https://www.google.be/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/trump-approves-selling-f-22-raptor-to-israel-report/amp/ So it seems the F-22 will probably make a come back. 😂 Trump Admin on a role. We should consider buying 36-54 too. This changes the game.

Again you underestimate the Trump admin salesmanship which has set record sales for all Teen platforms. Also, poor and COVID applies to virtually all countries. Besides, Greece being poor country still has more integrity by consistency meeting NATO spending requirements that apparent rich...

That's how the initial discussion of Rafale for Greece started, besides Greece officially requested F-35 in January before they requested Rafale when their PM met Teflon Don, so consider it a done deal.

You mean the famed Rafale F-4 will not have new software or uprated engines?

https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/10/27/pompeo-f-35-greece-turkey/ 6 F-35 originally for Turkey going to Greece 😂. For those who said Greece won't get the F-35

Rafale has been clocked in the past by MKI, Super Hornets in dogfights so it's a silly thing to compare, F-22 has been defeated by even T-38 or SH Block 2 as well. Dogfights don't prove anything but pilot skill. Supercruise shouldn't be an issue when the engine is uprated for Block 4 also the...

Sure, if including the development costs, the price of $110 million is still very good since it's a good .5 gen ahead of anything else available. Again, no body cares. Countries are lining up to buy it.