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  1. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Much-awaited HI Sutton article (and brilliant cutaway drawing of Kalvari with DRDO AIP) is finally here: http://www.hisutton.com/Scorpene-Class-Submarine.html
  2. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    I think....Scorpenes from Malaysian Navy could also make use of this facility.
  3. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    This is what I meant when I said a parallel line within MDL that can produce/assemble components, allowing for quicker delivery of the final products.....instead of setting up a different, private-sector shipyard for additional Scorpenes.
  4. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    @bose @porky_kicker Can't say I didn't warn you that this would happen... Implementation of DRDO developed AIP System into fifth and Sixth Scorpene submarines not flexible : MDL Chairman Chairman & Managing Director, Rear Admiral (Retd) R K Shrawat of State-owned Mazagon Dock Ltd (MDL)...
  5. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Thanks to @PARIKRAMA :) Great find, mate! @Tactical Frog
  6. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    I'm not very sure myself where IN is going with the torpedo procurement. Probably because I never really followed that particular program. Ideally, the issues in dealing with Italian companies should be sorted legally and the Black Shark should be purchased ASAP. If that's not possible, then...
  7. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    " As of now only the Black Shark is qualified on the Scorpene. To qualify & certify any other HWT will take years of work & considerable expenditure to reprogramme the SUBTICS Combat-Management System (CMS). If this is to be done, then the MoD can easily ask TimesNow, Dr Subramanium Swamy, Amit...
  8. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    The last conventional submarine we commissioned was almost 16 years ago - waiting for this boy to quickly finish it's sea trials and join service!
  9. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    The poster I replied to was of the opinion that we install AIP in the existing Scorpenes (first 4), AFTER their construction is over and they're in operational service. As I said, it's a not a preferred procedure as it is very expensive and presents problems like increased potential failure...
  10. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Exactly. Me too...BUT I hope we ensure that even in case of DRDO not keeping it's schedule, we must not delay the construction or outfitting of the Scorpenes at any cost. At that point, we must be ready to induct the Scorpenes even without AIP, and also keep the option open for an...
  11. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Incorporating an AIP module into an existing submarine is not a very neat procedure at all - as you actually have to cut open the pressure hull and piece it back again. You can be sure none of the first 4 Scorpenes will ever have an AIP upgrade. Only the last 2 or the follow-on 3 can have the...
  12. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Wikipedia is not a source. Furthermore, the particular line about VLS does not even have a citation. For further logical conclusion, in the same Wiki article you quoted you can find a list of expected Contenders for the program. Please take a look at those submarines and ask yourself the...
  13. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    AIP? Sure. VLS launchers? Nope....it was never really a prerequisite even for P-75I. Only the Russian Amur-950 design included the option for a VLS module (which could launch both BrahMos Block-1 and Klub cruise missiles), with the intent of making their offer look more attractive to IN on an...
  14. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    I support the idea of scrapping a seperate P-75I tender...instead, we should just buy 6 to 9 more Scorpenes, but this time with either the MESMA-II or the DRDO AIP from the start. Logically, this is what is most likely to happen. Because if we go ahead and buy a different submarine in P-75I...
  15. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    The upcoming BrahMos-NG variant (same 290km range, max speed boosted to Mach 3.5 and weighs approx. 1.5 tons) is being designed to fit into any 533mm torpedo tubes. Therefore a VLS fitment will no longer be necessary even if IN decides that future anti-ship SLCM capability needs to be based...
  16. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Now that we already have Scorpene...it makes no sense to buy a different class of submarines. Infact if we do so it will be a logistical nightmare of sorts. We'd be the only Navy in the world that operated 4 different kinds of diesel-electric SSKs within recent history. Kilo, U209, Scorpene and...
  17. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Actually, part of the blame should be placed on DRDO as well. As it is this agency which goes to MoD saying that they will develop an indigenous AIP system. Banking on this, MoD might just decide to hold off any foreign AIP purchase (afterall, if DRDO gets more funding, it means MoD gets more...
  18. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Whether we'll have AIP on the last two (or on the additional 3 that are being contemplated) depends on whether DRDO manages to get it ready, tested & certified by then. If not, either we'll just order them with conventional diesels, or order the MESMA-II directly from France.
  19. Gessler

    IN Scorpene Submarines - News & Discussions

    Enough. ................................................................
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