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  1. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    I'm not shocked, I was just pointing out that even retired PAF officers don't believe there Su-30 shoot down stories. Hope one of them comes forward with the F-16 shoot down details in the future.
  2. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Kaiser Tufail was the Director of Operations of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) during the Kargil conflict. In his latest blog from a few weeks ago he writes: "Meanwhile, the pair of patrolling Su-30s were completely shocked when they were targeted by an F-16 with an AIM-120 missile at long range...
  3. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Everyone talks about 2nd pilot and #doosrabanda but what happened to the 3rd pilot and #teesrabanda?
  4. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Pakistanis say the DG ISPR talking about capturing two pilots was a mistake due to some miscommunication or confusion. Scroll to 6:20 in this Video, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Imran Khan clearly says they have shot down two Migs and "Pilots" are in their custody! We got one pilot back, where...
  5. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    All western institutes or organisations of substance believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. All News channels and Media Organisations. So they invaded Iraq and hanged the President and took over its oil companies. Almost 20 years later we are still waiting for proof from "institute or...
  6. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Found a detailed 3d virtual model of the R-73 on sale and even that has a "I" in the virtual serial number ! Source: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/r-73-missiles-3d-3ds/735270
  7. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Disclaimer: I saw this on PeeDeeF by a poster called Surya, I Googled a few images of a R-73 and its seems to be true: I found a discrepancy in serial no of R-73 missile displayed by Pakistan. It lacks - I - sign in it's serial number while all other R-73 missiles have them. Serial no of R-73...
  8. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    No one who really knows about development of military aircraft takes Project Azm seriously. A nation which never developed its own moped or motorcycle will suddenly develop a 5th generation stealth fighter? That too a nation which is bankrupt and keeps begging the IMF and other nations for...
  9. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    When I saw these picture of the Mig-21 missiles supposedly recovered by the Pakistanis I was surprised how the R-73 on the right wing survived such a crash relatively intact. What the Pakistanis probably didn't realise that videos exist of the Mig-21 immediately after the crash and not...
  10. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    The R-73 is used by China and 35+ other countries including many in the middle east which are friendly with Pakistan and North Korea which shared Nuclear technology with Pakistan . It could have come from any where but I'm sure if they were Genuine they would have released them immediately...
  11. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    There has been a lot of conjecture why the IAF Su-30s did not fire back when rules of engagement were broken by the PAF by firing AMRAAMs across the border. Some people have said they could not get a firing solution, have inferior radar/missiles with less range etc. I would like to point out...
  12. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    I was wondering can someone use OSINT to verify these serial numbers like it was done for the AMRAAM the Pakistanis claimed was from Taiwan ? I'm sure Pakistanis have faked them since they were released one year after the incident but they could not match the exact 4 which were on...
  13. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    At 1:20 one eyewitness says one man in a parachute landed on one side of the mountain and the another guy in a parachute lands on the opposite side of the mountain. This confirms the location of the F-16 crash as per Sameer Joshi's article...
  14. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Yet another video claiming capture of two pilots, I wonder how many exist! How can an ejection seat or drogue chute be confused with a pilot by so many people (including the PM of the country and DG ISPR)! Watch between 3:20 and 3:40, a person claims he is a retired Army officer and says that 2...
  15. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Thanks for sharing the article, Kaisar Tufail says it is unconfirmed if the Su-30MKI was hit so how did the PAF award a kill? Is he correct or you or the PAF? You have been been advocating a kill and now you are posting an article by a ex-PAF chief which states otherwise? :bounce: "Meanwhile...
  16. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    The Pakistani's can go to any extent in fake propaganda on the internet and unfortunately some people believe it without verifying. Here is a "National Geographic Documentary" on Indian attack on Pakistan Abhinandan Varthaman 27 February 2020 82k views and over 1.4k likes! Only problem is...
  17. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Also the data on F-16.net is not all correct, its run by a private body of enthusiasts based on what public data is available. We strive to keep our database up-to-date and complete, nevertheless for some countries data is hard to verify (e.g. accuracy for the Middle East is only 90%). Source...
  18. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Within a day of the incident the IAF presented the wreckage of the AMRAAM with the serial number clearly visible. It was real, there was no time needed to fabricate anything or do any research on Serial numbers. The Pakis first claimed it was from Taiwanese Air Force and when that was proven to...
  19. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Thanks for pointing that out, but the PAF is way ahead in 2020. 4 planes lost in 2.5 months: 1 F-16, 1 Mirage III, 1 F-7 and 1 T-37 killing 3 pilots. At this rate in one year it will be 20+ planes:biggrin2: Also since the PAF is 50% the size of the IAF, its equal to the IAF losing 40+ planes...
  20. Foxbat

    IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

    Thats just fixed wing aircraft, if you include helicopters the number is more like 10,000. Source: http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/aircraftlossesofthevietnamwarnhahs.pdf In total, the United States military lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft and helicopters...
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