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> it's only rumoured if i don't like it Sure mate, whatever floats your boats.

Okay, i realised that was uncalled for i will take by words and for the rest, you haven't given any legit counter point for me to care to respond, in response you can read the old posts here and you will understand what i want to say. Tbh this one is a possible case, if ruskies realise that...

> Americans gave propaganda numbers but Russia never lies Absolute state of shills. Su57 is a meme aircraft for now, russia just showed a paper dummy which is not even real at this point so these talks are useless.

Vatniks have been seething about production since decades, reality is that there are only 12 of these out of which 2 are lsp versions. Url to a forum :rolleyes: , i have no interest in reading the recycled points, point still stands that Russia has only 12 of these with no actual proof that...

This was last year : https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/11/03/russias-stealth-fighter-still-kinda-stinks/ You didn't see more coverage in the west because Russians were not able to produce even enough to make it into the news to that point of direct confrontation with F35. There are...

Maybe in WVR if somehow Su57 managed to get sneak up to VR of F35 but in all probability, it will get toasted beforehand by F35. F35 will detect first and shoot first, assuming vatniks ever actually produce enough of Su57. I will not even bother with F22. RCS of F35 in public domain : 0.0015sqm...

I seriously doubt that, you seriously are not saying that Su57 is on par with F35 in terms of Stealth and EW suite right? Cuz that would be a hilarious joke. I contrary to popular opinion expect russia itself to deploy it (even USA itself is bought F15EX despite having F35) assuming it ever...

Kek sure, so far only 12 of these have been built. It shows either the plane was never ready or russia didn't have enough deep pocket to operate or buy more of these. Both can be true too. Also, the orders are allegedly from the Russian defense. It's pretty sad considering how it was touted to...

You are right about payload my bad. How many su57 russia sold or bought though? Well, it's not like Russians are known for some 'steller' aircraft engines so it's GE404 and GE414 are still better than the russian solution. > defensive From the first post onwards people here are shilling...

Its payload capacity seems lower than Tejas Mk2, will be ready in 6 years almost the same as mk2 for sp. Also, kek nobody seriously believes that it will go for 30 million USD seriously? Also, 'possible orders' 300? Really? I hope they are not counting on India because India will almost buy...

It's not nationalism, it's just pure and simple pursuit of strategic autonomy or atmanirbharta of this country which is important for our survival. Things are changing fast, we can't trust Russia or any other country. I don't even care if it's some sort of XXXth gen aircraft, it's better to go...

I think most of the images have already been posted. So apologies if it's a repeat: I am not 100% sure about the payload part or its capacity but here's some artwork i found on /k/ :

It's like F35B + X-32 + Su57 had a one night stand and the result is this. Let's wait for reveal i guess. What does that even supposed to mean?

Lowkey looks like X-32 but slimmer.

Russian aircrafts look amazing, even this one too but sorry we are sticking with MWF and then AMCA and maybe if there's need ORCA. No more imports. PS: Desi >>>>>>>>>>> rest In everything.