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Did you guys miss this one? CHINA BUILDS THE WORLD'S FASTEST TANK GUN, THEN TRIES TO HIDE IT 125MM SHELLS GO AT MACH 6 By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer June 20, 2015 http://www.popsci.com/china-builds-worlds-fastest-tank-gun-then-tries-hide-it While new tanks like...

@militarysta bm-42 mango with probably type-2 apfsds

105mm l7 round with longer penetrator, china

@militarysta, @methos norinco ammo,,,

Chally 2 ammo..

a grainy pic of ARDE 125 mm P-2 APFSDS with 620 mm penetration... This is in adition to the POFproduced 125 mm APFSDS-T round with 460 mm penetration third round is NDC/ PAEC produced Naiza DU 125 mm, 560+ mm penetration @ 2000 m all can be fired by AK, T-80ud, AZ and Type-85 III

any specs? the penetrator looks rather short compared to these..

Paul's twilight 2000 stuff is a game site everyone knows about it, just like Collin's estimates :D However, the information on DESTO and AK is remarkably accurate, i dont post things in thin air unless i check them. Not to refute anything you said about the game context but i will find more...

background of DESTO

there is a reason for this info available on a random forum because Pakistani defence manufacturers keep shutting down their web portals for some unknown reason but the information is correct as per my research. Everyone is entitled to his opinion.

Varta is exclusively a Ukrainian product which in itself has roots in Shtora but DESTO is working on indigenous APS for all mbts since 2008. The fate of this system is, well, a secret :)

reference to Naiza-2 APFSDS round (650 mm @ 2000 m) from official DESTO site...(Defense Science & Technology Organization is an active R&D specialist and a subsidiary of HIT) Defence Science & Technology Organization (DESTO) (21c)

3BM-22 Iran

2a46 with recoil assembly.. earliest T-72s ;) T-72B1 T-72 BV Morocco

With due respect to all members... Actually when it comes to media reports, no source is 100% reliable, there is some cooking gone here and there for sure ;) The reason why i insist on a round with more than 600 mm penetration value (Pakistan specific) is what i have seen myself and its...

Janes is way more credible than Andrei Chang and Kanwa nonsense. I also have an ACIG report on the same DU round, with same figures quoted but i see no point to force the issue. However, i cant deny what i have seen with eyes @ Ideas 2008 and few other events. That's why i don't really care...

never knew Janes was a Chinese media propaganda machine :D The sources quoted here by Janes are Pakistani not Chinese, BIG difference between the two. by the way, 450 * 1.25 = 562.5 :rofl:

i am not that dumb buddy, you also posted the Type-85III/ 96 schematics and quoted me on that.

here is something about Naiza, as per Janes, its range is 25% higher than the 105 mm DU round produced by POF 460 + 25% (115) = 575 mm @ 2000 m @ 0 obliquity ;)