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Unbelievable..............simply unbelievable!! Just because we talked about this a few days ago with some other member, doesn't mean we can't discuss again, especially when a conclusion is yet to be reached!!This is supposed to be a discussion forum afterall, or have I got it all wrong??

I never said you did!!I said you didn't mention a thing and your statement was pretty vague to begin with!!Again you are being presumptuous. More presumptions. Did you even care to read my earlier comment or did you not understand it??This is what I said - "And besides, where in your post, you...

That's rather presumptuous on your part to presume that I haven't done my studies. Not rounds but only one particular type - HESH, which had become pretty much a relic many decades ago!!And besides, where in your post, you ever mentioned rounds other than APFSDS??You never specified anything...

History??Trust me when I say this bro, I haven't even started yet!! I'm right about the entire length of my post bruh. I have and trust me, practically all of them are basically relics by today's standards, which belongs in museums rather than in actual combat use!! I never even cared to...

It is, as of now, has been since almost half a century now actually!! I have compared them, but have you??More over, are you actually aware of the physics involved in the stabilization of sub-caliber rounds (aka APFSDS) and the effects of rifling on the same??I seriously doubt you are, going by...

A completely false assertion!!

Not at all!!PCB works nothing like a HESH but exactly like a regular thermobaric munition!!It's just that DRDO follows some weird terminology instead of the establitablished ones, like terming APFSDS as FSAPDS and stuff like that!!"Penetration Cum Blast",really?? Height of chutiyappa if you...

That was true before the advent of digital FCS with advanced ballistic computers, mated with highly sensitive meteorological sensors and gun stabilisation systems so advanced and sensitive to the minutest of the vibrations that you can literally place a glass full of tea over the tank gun and...

They don't have to because the mud walls are erected to prematurely detonate the rounds, before they can hit the concrete walls underneath!!You would need to expend several HESH rounds before you can make contact with actual concrete wall and neutralise the occupants with spallings.But in doing...

No problem. No I never suggest that.I said, an outer wall, made of mud and stones, if thick enough, like 3 feet or so, can achieve enough mass and sectional density to actually be able to detonate the HESH rounds before they can make contact with the actual concrete wall, there by rendering the...

So if you are that much confident, why don't you simply ask the dude??And why do you think I would even tell you to do such a thing if I weren't confident myself?? I said an HE round, not an HESH.Pakistanis do not use a tank with rifled gun and HESH doesn't work in smooth barrels!!I thought you...

Nope but in the official brochures!! I don't have the source material with me right now but the MkI APFSDS rounds have a muzzle velocity of around 1650 meter/second where as both the Pronit/Cl MkII and 3BM42 Mango attains 1730+ meter/second at muzzle when fired at 520 or something MPa chamber...

Who said that, because I certainly never said any such thing!!Stop putting words in my mouth kiddo!!All I said was you have no evidence to support your claim that Arjun has better stabilisation systems than T 90s!!How much more you gonna lie, kid??Stop it, it's enough.And get the spelling right...

Are you thick in your head or something kid??Or do you suffer from some kind of comprehension issues??Try to get the gist here for crying out loud!! All I was trying to say that if a mud wall, which isn't backed by anything solid can withstand repeated punishment by 84mm HEAT and TB rounds...

Actually, I have and you do not even realise it, you would need a functioning brain for that, which is obviouly lacking in your case!! Hey man, this is not the way to speak about your mom??You are talking about your mom, right??So, she's a little bitch, how little??I'm curious. :D :D Nope...

They were outgunned, not over-matched in terms of power, try to fathom the difference for fuck's sake!! Dream world??Dude how big of an ignorant moron are you??Are you even aware of the fact that the tangos in the J&K used to build huts (dhokes in their tongue) with stones and mud with walls so...

You know, I believe in treating a person the exact way he deserve to be treated!!And twats like you should be shamed and ridiculed at every opportunity there is!!So yeah, this is the way I'm gonna reply to ignorant stupid little brats like yourself kiddo, get used to it, because I'm only gonna...

You have got it in reverse I fear.Actually, the truth is, anything that doesn't add up to the reality doesn't confirm to my logic!!And I'm not one of those who would twist and bend the logic to suit his own fantasy nor would pull out 'facts' from my backside just to win an argument at any cost...

Sorry but I find that extremely hard to swallow!!How is the Indian context anymore different than the others??Are facing some different types of threats that are completely unique to our context and threats which can not be countered by smooth barrel guns??If that's the case, then I would...

You have got it in reverse I fear.Actually, the truth is, anything that doesn't add up to the reality doesn't confirm to my logic!!And I'm not one of those who would twist and bend the logic to suit his own fantasy nor would pull out 'facts' from my backside just to win an argument at any cost...