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  1. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Well it's technically a just decoy vehicle... you could just program a random path for it, for its next few weeks. After which it will come back to its home base or ampny predestinated rendezvous coordinates to be picked up
  2. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Lol I thought of this too! Why the fuck aren't we making several large long-range & autonomous torpedos that will just float around out into the waters, mimicking the signature of submarines... since unlike surface fleet we cannot have immediate visual confirmation on them, there would be...
  3. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    No this is a big issue... some options have been explored like using optical cables cables to interconnect all the sensors with a operator base. I actually knew a lot more on this subject, but I buggered off all those bookmarks at one point & now I am frankly much less equipped to properly...
  4. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    That's where you're miscalculating the scenario.. The whole reason of detecting general location of the sub, then trying to triangulate its direction-speed & launching torpedoes aiming at where it is going to be hoping that the torpedo seeaker will find it..... is totally based on the...
  5. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Let's take a scenario, no? A sub detected by cables laid out in BoB can be engaged by smart launching from Port Blair silo. A sub cannot run 200-300km to get out of its range before it reaches diving distance, 2-3min tops... following which you are just dependent on sonar-decoys, which don't...
  6. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Now that's not achieved yet, on public atleast. You need confirmation crews to not hit other shipping. Can't be autonomous. But I find it odd how people have orgasm over Brahmos, but saying that subs will somehow escape torpedoes. (seriously have anyone of you seen a Brahmos video?.. they have...
  7. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    A sub will escape a supersonic torpedo by outpacing it out of its 650km range?.. ok, sure (you need some time to process I think). I edited the above post a bit BTW. have another look Dreadnought flashbacks 😁
  8. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Dude we have underwater pipelines in optical fibre stretching through the oceans! It's not that costly in comparison. With 100km detection range from each modules you won't need that many. Lol no!.. Tailing & tracking is to be a thing of the past, soon. We have supersonic homing torpedos now...
  9. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Incorrect... That's the past. Modern seabed arrays have crazy efficiency, as do not have to scan out any noise, as they are just looking upwards into the water & sky from below (surface based ones have the subs hiding against seabed at background). No matter how silent you are, the metal inside...
  10. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Depends. They might. Dormant torpedo silos aren't new. Well you see, unlike other naval crafts, submarines are pretty hapless once they have been detected... they have no SAMs, no CIWS. What happens on detection of a sub?.. The nearest ship will send a fat, lumbering helicopter (which could...
  11. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Nah.. We already have the sea-bed lined with surveillance sensors. Subs might find themselves obsolete soon.
  12. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Those could actually be used by low-end jump jets (just capable enough to do airstrikes), but we got no harrier replacement. Chinks tried & failed with the J-18, but NLCA would make a gOod STOVL jet. Edit: My bad, J-31 is just a stop-gap/export model. They're targeting J-26 prototype based...
  13. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    1st ones take more time usually... Consider Arihant & Arighat.
  14. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    IKR... A small missile-boat should have the capacity of atleast 2 truck based launchers, ie, minimum half dozen AShM.
  15. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    I think the most relevant reason is to bolster our number of ships quickly, by building them simultaneously in both India & Russia...
  16. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    That could actually be because of superior, costlier tech & sensors in Indian ships.. also they have more efficient assembly line mass production.
  17. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Something just dawnee upon me... Godavari class frigates (3400t) had 4×ASM & 24×SAM. Talwar class frigates (3850t) has 8×ASM & 24×SAM. Shivalik class frigates (6200t) has 8×ASM & 32×SAM. Nilgiri class "frigates" (6670t) will have 8×ASM & 32×SAM. In comparison: Delhi class destroyers (6200t) has...
  18. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    It's already made of metal, just exposed & shaped to reflect more radar signature. Kinda opposite of stealth! Warships today may be detected by radar at distances of hundreds of kilometres, not always will it be visually confirmed. Mounted with a radar & 4 LRSAM (2 armytruck's load on land)...
  19. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Naaaah, when a ship has even 1 anti-ship missile left, it won't come within range of the puny gun & smaller arms of the "200-odd armed & angry crew members" of the spent enemy ship/s! Think realistically! The moment 2 ships on one side are out of ammunition & has no hope of killing or...
  20. Bleh

    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Thanks for detailed explanation except this i still find very possible; Captured cruisers & battleships have been taken as prize in World War 1 & 2, no significant naval battles after that. Moreover now ships don't need to be badly damaged with volleys of artillery fire to be captured! Imagine...
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