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I read almost 30lakh of these are coming, not just RR. It means all that carbine drama, multi-calibre drama, 6.8 calibre drama all are finally coming to an end. Tragic heros MCIWS, P-72, Astr Defence 7.62 etc. are killed off by IA(mresh Puri). Ab arranged marriage ho raha hy... India settles for...

Ok i heard its less than half the price of telescopic one & they just wanna spam Ak-203 in millions now... So it was decided that the old stock will serve.

Hey man, you gotta do your share of spoonfeeding 😁 Do you see me complaining?... It's practically a responsibility!

Your answer lies in your question!

There are lots of desi private/public options in DMR, sniper & assault rifles, carbine, even a battle rifle (too late though due to the Sig-716 deal). But real question is whether these Astr Defence or SSS Defence products even in trials, or after Defexpo the Indian Army simply showed them the...

Wouldn't such shotgun be more effective in COIN that the Ak itself!?.. Where stopping power is off the only concern in less than 200m range.

That's good, but Mr point still stands. Bureaucracy, political, R&D leadership were all included as part off the problem too, not just military. Buraecrats did the blunders like MMRCA & acquisition delays... Military did the multicalibre charade & shat on indigenous projects for decades over...

Sure buddy, i take it all back... Our soldiers are not some of the worst equipped among its peers around the world, with every defence acquisition being made by visionary legends thinking of decades ahead making India a pioneer in every field. Never were those decisions impractical or affected...

Ok that's true, but still in theory... Our airforce didn't even bother buying latest versions of Russian AAMs despite Pakis getting AIM-120 almost 10 years ago. So, Russia developing one buttless compatible round doesn't necessarily mean Indians will be using them, atleast not until some grand...

No amount of fire discipline can make recoil non-existent. That why no other force in the world do it. It started as a fucking jugaad due to lack of better options, nothing more... And they're planning on continuing it! Do you even know who COBRAs are?!!! Most of their Aks for replaced by X-95...

Firing (spray rather) 7.62×39 without a buttstock, would be less clumsy than a compact handleable carbine?!!! :crazy: How'd he even hit the target?.. Cobras have nearly wiped out naxals with X-95 without those bullshit coming in the way. More bullshit! Our SFs are some of the worst equipped...

Greatest reason it should be considered first is, unlike AK-203 or CAR-816, X-95 is already made & operated in large numbers in India!!! Lol. And SAS used Sterling SMG in WW2. And Sivaji used a waghnakh. So? For that exact role, today the X-95 would be WAAAY more concealable & easier to fire...

The X-95 can be 5.56mm, but Zittara is also compatible with Indian 5.56x30 cartridge (level iii penetrator) & good old 9x19mm cartridge. Takes just a different barrel, that can be issued as per unit requirements. Also 33cm barrel of X-95 is claimed to be able to accelerate its 9mm rounds with...

Ok, Punj Lloyd then... X-95 probably got the highest velocity & accuracy 9mm round on market & available to be made in India! Both OFB & Army brass can compete for trophy of "India's biggest dumbass".

No doubt the SIG-716 purchase is a great deal at great price, but why buy more underpowered 5.56 for carbine? And now the retards are contemplating using the Ak-203 as carbines in Kashmir by removing the buttstock... LIKE JIHADI FUCKING MILITIA!!! Why can't we just get more X-95 Zitara as...