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Yes, but that's beside the point. It's pretty much same as Jf-17..just a delta-canard approach that they ditched. I think the exact same canards and wing have been carried over to the J-10 with minimal changes. I was shocked how much it looked like MWF (& glad that we reached the same path...

Fun fact! There was almost a Chinese MWF, on the Jf-17/Jl-9 fuselage only, but they (thankfully) went with that wrong & canard on J-10 instead & ditched this completely... ...otherwise Porks could have had a really maneuverable jet. And this is how our LCA should have come out of R&D over...

I didn't know a relation between Jf-17 & J-10 development.. Interesting story. J-7B altered the J-7's deltawings to give far superior lowspeed maneuverability, but needed better engines to maintain energy. J-7FS experimental prototype. J-7MF.. This tailed-canarded concept is when the Jf-17...

@Mods plz don't move it to joke thread.

Yes, yes srry ab maaf kar do. :scared1: I've already been called out Give a 2nd opinion on this instead. That'll help... https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/amca-advanced-medium-combat-aircraft-hal.36/post-1877168

FOC doesn't have jammer. I wouldn't send it to dogfight... And Mark1A will have self-protection jammer. Locking range will depend widely on its effectiveness.

Yeah, it seems I was wrong. My bad... Didn't know that much about Jf-17.

PAC Kamra... They actually did the modifications for it themselves. China... Any new tech development will come from them. Pakis can modify & streamline the manufacture etc.

Ok thnx. Got it. The Jf-17s were built & supplied by PAC tho. So that it can be technically called Paki, China doesn't manufacture it themselves.

@FalconSlayers that's from Block1?.. Can't be from these version.

Tell me that's a photoshop!!!..

Seriously it have your seen pics of it carrying 450kg bombs under-wing until now?.. This news is incorrect. Fanart of 5th gen version 😑

But the J-10s they're actually using never managed any customers despite them trying... Don't know what to make of that.

Dude aluminium coverwd with plaster is also technically a "composite". Chinks threw a bone at them, the J-XX series flankers areare almost wholly made of composites. FC-1 blk2 got some and Pakis got the license.

Given that Jf-17 heavily borrows from the F-7 platform, being aerodynamically stable makes sense. It's less complicated to build & has commonality with their logistical expertise. As long as Paki only do BVR engagements with it (as should we with the Mig-21 at this point), leaving WVR work to...

The spine is different...widened & raised like later Mig-21 Bis/Bison versions. Most likely to make room for fuel. No new engine, so increased range. That's claimed to be a new wide-angle holographic HUD (somewhat negated by HUD, but still advantageous)... it's crude & cumbersome . I'm not sure...

Will it now?!!..  :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Not necessarily... its not hard to assemble 8 aircrafts in 8 months.

...And that's why Pakistan has 100+ Jf-17s in service today, whatever the quality. They had J-10's dual rabbits available to Jf-17 for years.

Whats the difference between the two? Why would they receive any royalty for FC-1/Jf-17 export unless the jets sent were assembled in Pak. (Not that it matters... Less than a dozen outside Pakistan.) FC-1's relation with Pakistan seems even worse than India's with Su-30. Can we export Su-30? We...

Why?..................................... And how is it Pakistani indigeneous? That's like Su-30 is to us!