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  1. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Accident huwa hai ki nahin? Or that is also unclear. Barrel fata ki nahin.... ? Or that is also unclear. How does the rest matter... sudhar jao bhai...
  2. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Why should I think... We are talking about a report which says DRDO is going back to the drawing board... That is it.
  3. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    So now you wish to claim reservations on Fatigue... you surely mean mental fatigue without using mental capacity... Keep writing whatever you like... you have a Union perhaps..
  4. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    But the test must be passed. Unless you want a reservation in that too. Must be investigated. Not at all. Do not propagate such a theory. The gun can not end up killing more soldiers that the shells it fires. A gun is as beautiful as it fires and not a photoshop beauty. Someone has to...
  5. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    If the shell was the broblem.... DRDO would not go back to the drawing board... In my view DRDO is attempting to build in extra features into ATAGS that would place it above other systems without going through associated problems such features would create. The need to build in additional...
  6. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Disapoint yourself because the design and parameters for the barrel have been worked out by DRDO in consultation with OFB who make the barrels.. That is why it is gone back to the drawing board... Even L&T makes Vajra on technical parameters given by others and not making the barrels.
  7. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    If Those are paid article what is this... DRDO has proved that MoD and specailly the CDS is a fool by placing artillery guns in the negative list. The will force MoD to buy Elbit... or be Nexters.. or Danel... ******************************************* Indigenous artillery gun may go back to...
  8. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    In artillery technology two things are closely connected. The barrel thickness, metallurgy, and consequently the weight of the barrel are connected to the pressure generated by the maximum charge that it is supposed to fire at. That also directly affects the design, metallurgy, and thickness...
  9. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Look at this Tamsha ; So most of the arguments here seem to suggest that DRDO developed a howitzer with a barrel to fire a Zone7 Charge when Zone 7 Charge was not available with the country...?? * Then tell me how did ATAGS achieve the stated 48km range? Or was that a false claim. * Then...
  10. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Bharat Forge artillery gun in final trials before sale to Indian Army Company developing four platforms, all 100 percent indigenous, which are are in various stages of trials One of four artillery guns developed by Bharat Forge is learnt to have reached the final stage of testing with the...
  11. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    What I meant is that if it is a gun (has to be because the mount and carriage remain that of 130mm) then it is for plains and deserts and will have difficulty in utilization in mountains.. Bofors, Dhanus, ATAGS, ATHOS are a howitzer system.
  12. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/in-its-largest-ever-export-order-ofb-to-supply-50000-bofors-shells-to-uae/articleshow/70501461.cms?from=mdr One HE ERFB BT Shell and Primer M19l-A2 shell cost about 63000 Rs. An ordinary HE shell should no go beyond Rs 50000 for Indian Forces.
  13. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    So it is being referred throughout as "Gun" and nowhere as a Howitzer... That will impose limitations...
  14. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    I doubt that Sarangis a howitzer because the basic mount remains to be that of 130mm Gun..
  15. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Well that all is added to the cost of the gun..
  16. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    I would say that it is a poor attempt to portray that ATAGS can turn in hair pin bends. However such good roads are not everywhere and army would require a gun that can turn at 15 degrees with the tow vehicle.
  17. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Can the Gurus in the forum please tell me if Sarang is a Gun System or a Howitzers.... since the mount is that of 130mm Guns, does Sarang reain and gun or has it been modified to become a howitzer.. ??
  18. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Yes, Now imagine the cost of one shell fired by the Gun. It will be something like- Cost of the shell, plus Cost of storage, maintenance and transportation. Cost of crew required to fire it, control it and associated tasks. Cost of gun (reduction in the life of barrel caused by firing a shell...
  19. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    That is perfectly fine. Research must go on to explore new frontiers of Sceince and technology .... However many aspects are incremental in nature. For example there is no use firing shell at 50 km which has a dispersion of one km from the intended point of impact. Hence research in long range...
  20. Bhadra

    Indian Army Artillery

    Typical examples of Arming without aiming... Artillery shells or the fire must be controlled in all aspects of its ranges, targets, effects, timing and in space. That is to say If I fire artillery shells at 30 km range, I must have the capabilities to observe its fall on target, correct it...
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