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  1. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    This tweet seems like its based on this presentation by DGMF: https://indianarmy.nic.in/makeinindia/importantinformation/125MM%20APFSDS%20AMMUNITION%20WITH%20HIGH%20DoP%20OF%20600%20–%20800MM.pdf Lets ask the tweeter himself. @Vinod DX9 , what was your source of information for this tweet?
  2. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    Svinets has DOP of 600 mm. DGMF, IA is already canvassing for equivalent rounds. I remember reading that Russians had made a 700 mm DOP APFSDS around a decade ago. So 800 mm is out of our reach for now. As for T-96, the newer variants have good layer of DRDO Mk II class ERA. We could upgrade...
  3. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    No. Its 500-550 mm. The new EOI mentions DOP as penetration depth, not in terms of defeated plate. EDIT: For DOP of 800 mm - 1000 mm, we need long penetrators with length to dia. ratio of ~40. Like the Americans. But these would be too long to fit in autoloaders of T-72 and T-90. This current...
  4. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    BTW, anybody got any idea about frontal armour RHA equiv. of Paki tanks like Al-Khalid and T-80? AFAIK, Al-Khalid is 450 mm turret, no idea about hull. No idea about T-80. It would have more than 500 mm turret frontal IMHO. So all in all, DRDO MkII APFSDS will pierce all Paki turrets at 2000...
  5. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    The EOI is alright and DRDO Mk II APFSDS round has this capability. The DOP mentioned is in terms of actual penetration distance, not in terms of defeated plate. Elaboration follows:- ____________________________________________________________________________________________ The penetration...
  6. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    FINALLY!!!!!! Now, all that is left are modern camouflage pattern, software defined radios, weapons optics, knee and elbow pads and eye protection. By 2025, we might be fielding a modern infantry. Then we can talk about tactical computers, etc according to the now scrapped F-INSAS. IMHO its for...
  7. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    Wait, I just realised your comment's meaning. You are saying that Army will select T-14 Armata for FRCV and T-15 ICV for FICV, both based on Armata Universal Combat Platform. Not possible. FICV is under indigenous design and development category of DPP-2016. An excerpt from your article:-
  8. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    Its FRCV guys, not FICV. FICV is BMP replacement by DRDO, not an RFI to replace T-72 by the Army. BTW, I think the Chief will take a good look at the Armata's features, then come back, put the features in a GSQR for FMBT and then demand that FMBT with those specs be ready by 2025 for FRCV...
  9. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    I agree with the need of more younger people at those positions, but is this the only way to do so? And how does the retirement age work out? If you want more younger people in higher positions, where do the older generation go? As far as I can tell, this will only mean more competition as fewer...
  10. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    This is BS. Why is there a need to compete with the civil servants' rank structure? Army is crying about rising revenue bill and then news comes up that they are planning rank and pay parity with civil services in a way that the revenue bill will rise further. Maybe it is the civil services that...
  11. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    Why am I not surprised. Air forces have a very different set of priorities when compared to the Army. Hence they have very different ways of fighting and a drastically different perception of what enemy asset should be targeted first. Its understandable that the Air Force would not like their...
  12. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    They need to regulate the combat dress / Jungle dress. It should only be available to the authorised personnel i.e. Army guys. I once saw a Bihar Police commando wearing Army fatigues as his "uniform". Its disgusting really. The best way to do that is to update the camo pattern and then only...
  13. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    No bro. The men currently on the Chindit expedition were trying to re-create the same expedition as undertaken by the original Chindits during World War II. So they are doing everything the same way in which the original Chindits did. The Chindits did not have flame-less ration heaters in WWII...
  14. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: Media will be media. Don't Drink and Drive
  15. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    Wheeled APC?!?!?!? Kestrel?????
  16. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    By modern standards, even the camo is not okay. And then the INSAS in orange furniture :facepalm: For helmets, they should use helmets with camo, net and tufts to break the silhouette, like these:- If we try to further narrow down the number of uniforms required, we need:- Jungle warfare camo...
  17. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    If you give this job to DRDO, they are going to come up with a good modular load carrying system integrated with BPJ, comparable to the modular system the US Army uses. Problem is selection of camo pattern.
  18. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    They should make the Combat uniform and boots standard issue like the rest of the gear viz. flak jacket/BPJ, Helmet and weapon. Give every personnel a pair. Don't expect the personnel to buy them. If required, take the cost of the uniform out of their pockets, but issue it to them directly. And...
  19. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    This sorry state of affairs is even more shocking when one sees state police "commados" from Bihar wearing Army fatigues with the Indian Army emblem on top of it. These MoD idiots are inviting a terrorist attack where the terrorists can make easy use of these freely available Army uniform. Looks...
  20. Adioz

    Indian Army: News and Discussion

    Going by the ratio of "2-4 Shilka : 1 Tank battalion (regiment in Indian parlance)" that is mentioned in the document cited by @Vorschlaghammer , for the 67 Indian Armoured regiments, we can estimate 134-268 Shilkas => We are at least 34 Shilkas short. Still, these are old Soviet formations, and...
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