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Very interesting document. The eight RFPs released (appendix 1) But why is the 122 mm HE ER rocket being procured at the heavy rate of 5000/year for next 10 years? Are we not phasing out the BM-21 Grads and replacing them with Pinakas? Or are those 22 regiments of Pinaka (that are planned...

That is what I am trying to figure out. Maybe its some kind of cluster munition, developed by OFB. Their website does not mention this in products though.

What is this? Carrier shell from OFB, already in use?

:doh: OMFG. The word "Tower" was what confused me. Tower means a tall self-supporting structure. In this document though, "Para Droppable Gun Tower" is just an example of bad English. They meant to say Tow-er, as in something that tows the gun. :facepalm: English is a phunny language.

:eek1: I never thought the day would ever come!!!!!!!! Wow!! If this is true, then that means we need ATAGS there, not the Dhanush.:shoot: ATAGS needs to enter production ASAP. But the Army red-flagged weight issues.:doh:

No. It would have been a topic for discussion here if IA was already using 155mm arty on LoC. Since IA is not doing that yet, your "suggestion" has less to do with trails of Dhanush and more to do with escalation control on LoC. Such a discussion is better moved to LoC thread (where the same...

Move this discussion to LoC thread. Stop shitting here.

^ What the F is a gun tower? No, I mean seriously. Its meant for para. Is it some kind of field arty tractor for ultra light howitzers? Take this discussion off the artillery thread.

Its a government department. Not a DPSU. It would actually perform better if it were a DPSU. So in effect, its systemic problems are considered t be worse than PSUs.:rofl: Forgotten Kargil, have we?

APU, autoloader etc are all different. Look at the guns closely:-

This is good news. Now OFB can focus on making Dhanush barrels and ATAGS can be made entirely by Kalyani Group. Faster induction. Looks like TATA is already out of the race for ATAGS here.

AFAIK, the barrel for both is made by OFB. Rest of the subsystems are all different. Kalyani uses more imported content (APU, etc is imported). TATA uses Indian APU. Not sure but from what I remember, TATA ATAGS does not have auto-loader. So autofrettage happens in Kanpur OFB?

Do you not know where to direct your hatred? OFB has problems. These are system-related. WTF do you mean by "you need cash and political reach" for a job at OFB? Have you ever heard of the ESE? And wait for a couple of years, once they reach the number 60, I'll be waiting to ask you who is on...

@lcafanboy your pet phrase "reservation chaap workers" ticks me off more than anything. How much is the reservation quota? Subtract that number from 100. That is the number of employees of OFB who had to be brilliant to even make the cut. Getting a job at OFB is not easy, and the people sitting...

The news is all nice and great.

Self Propelled Howitzers (hereafter referred to as SPH) are meant to provide artillery support to an armoured spearhead in the force structure. An Armoured Spearhead consists of tanks, other armoured vehicles like Infantry Fighting Vehicles, Amoured Air Defence and SPH supported by Engineers and...

The chassis would not cost as much as the tank IMHO. Also, if we compare the cost of K-9 Vajra, the Vajra deal is worth 4500 crores for just 100 guns. We can't mount it on a jeep -_- I am talking about a proper Armoured Self-Propelled Howitzer. We need a lot of these to provide artillery cover...

upgraded ≠ copied Dhanush 52 cal is in the works, by OFB. ATAGS has capabilities like Multiple Round Simultaneous Impact (MRSI) that Dhanush does not. ATAGS can (I think it definitely will, in the near future) be mounted on an armoured chassis to produce an indigenous Self-Propelled Gun...

YES!!!!!!!!!!! Now only if we could have DRDO look into mounting the ATAGS on the Arjun chassis. Maybe they plan to do this after ATAGS is cleared for production. Now this could end in very different ways:- DRDO Bhim Mk-II (nice name for ATAGS on Arjun chassis :cool1:) is accepted and instead...

We do use defensive formations in "full scale war". Study about how warfare is conducted before you post stuff like this. Please. I am begging you.