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  1. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    You put that much concrete and mud in any gun, high chances it will fail to fire.But then in an AK u can easily remove that mud with some shaking and then carry on where as in an AR that thing will cause serious problems due to less space. An AK anyday will be my go to gun than a DI AR.
  2. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Any gun if mistreated for long will have problems, just that when it comes to a serious situation,most would go with AK. THE RR uses Ak variants not M4s for a reason. SF use M4s for accuracy and ease of use, ergonomics, etc but one one M4 seen in Siachen till date.
  3. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    The SOF community uses a family of weapons that are mission specific.They may not always roll locked and loaded with HKs, when an MK18 can do a good job. But the fact that we see more HK 416s in frontline Infantry like French Army and shock troop like USMC says a lot about its prowess. Since...
  4. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    THE SSGs said they would pick up an AK 103 in marshy areas for operations than any other weapon after evaluating all rifles. AN original russian AK is better rifle than AR is Marshy areas.These other AKs are kit assembled and don't bring the same quality control. I am yet to see an AR DI being...
  5. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    An AK assembles with kits and a completely assembled AK from original manufcturers will be diff, the former is more like for US market gun enthusiasts while the latter is for militaries needing hardcore battlefield use.
  6. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    The US Armed forces have millions of M4 variants and even M14 from Vietnam era. The thing with HK 416 type is that the change to GP ARs is easier as the lower AR receiver fits with the upper Hk one.Ofcourse there are more aftermarket kits and parts availability for DI ARs and that ecosystem is...
  7. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    SOCOM uses a lot of weapons including HK 416 variants. The JSOC elements also use HK 416. AR DI platforms are improving and so are piston operated systems<getting lighter and less recoil> but there is a need for more reliable gas piston variants in diff situations. This guy doing a test isn't...
  8. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Couldn't help sharing this article...ofcourse in diff contexts diff weapons may shine whether AR or AK, but still an interesting read. https://www.cleveland.com/world/2009/10/in_2008_afghan_firefight_us_we.html
  9. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Noice. DI in a bigger calibre like .308 is more accurate for quick fire compared to piston.That is why we went for AR10 in SIG. Not that I want to make this into a pure DI vs LSP/SSP debate but in a battle environment where there is muck, dust, smoke, sand<abrasive or corrosive>, sweat, blood...
  10. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    In such orders of thousands <esp CARACAL> what is the probability that for Navy OTB capable GP short barrel rifle be ordered in limited numbers for their VBSS teams and MARCOS. Or does the Navy order like Army from its own pocket...
  11. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    OFB weapons don't inspire awe or confidence.Simple as that.Based on the previous track record, to go for such a large order with them when the best they have done is develop an AK clone, and those other rifles just look like a mix of various rifles , no aesthetics, no new magazine for .308 ...
  12. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    But I mean looking at the collective of Paramilitaries and Army/Navy and state police forces...is it still that number of bound to go up...
  13. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    How many carbines are we looking to have if lets say this IWI , PLR deal goes through...
  14. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Given the experience of IWI and their closeness to India, I am in a way inlined towards ARAD. 1.AR ergonomic platform. 2.Can fire .300 BLACKOUT with barrel change without hiccups.<as advertised> 3.More experience to be shared if Made in India as compared to CARACAL who just started out mostly...
  15. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    I would have wanted to see something like ARAD if proven in testing and trials, to be adopted in carbine role. 1.AR ergonomics. 2.GP 3.BArrel change to fire .300 BLACKOUT <5.56 round with 7.62x39 like punching power> 4.Lighter 5.IWI offering.
  16. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    May your words be proven right, but remember this is s a new platform and customized for India in someway.All that we know about its performance is mostly theoretical.Unless used in combat,we can't say how effective it will be in our real world conditions.Esp with changing temperatures and...
  17. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Good article..thanks for that. So the takeaway is basically that Long Stroke wins over Short Stroke when it comes to reliability.Ofcourse it does, esp with AK platforms.But the Short Stroke Pistons<SSPs> when compared to DI<Direct Impingement> is more reliable talking of two capable rifles from...
  18. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    You are right,, they did solve most of the problems, what concerns me really is the Sig 716i coming from their TREAD M400 platform <diff calibre>and its kind of an entry level AR but a fine rifle.Plus unless graphite powder or something like that is used in mountainous areas where temperature...
  19. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    No not exactly, more like you looking for a long term reliable partner and getting a girl that sticks but may have infidelity issues plus heavy on maintenance, the last part of what you said would have been true had we got OFB .308 rifle in its present form.
  20. ALPHA126383

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    With the heat and extremes of climate that our guys operate in RELIABILITY is utmost alongwith Accuracy and less recoil. Sig 716i and even G2 Patrol variant compared to G3 have lesser recoil, reason why Pakis going for DI in their next of line battlefield rifle the PK 18.
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