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lol, sometimes you acts like Damian View the below picture, I marked the horizontal dispersion, which is greater than 0.5m, e.g 0.5mil at 1000m photo hosting

This is wrong, if that square is 1 meter, then the group is >0.5m horizontal. 0.5m/1000m = 0.0005, arcsin(0.0005) = 0.02865 degree = 0.5 mils = 1.71 MOA

Does anyone have estimation of Leopard 2 Revolution add on side armor thickness? (especially militarysta, could you do it?) It seems the longest LOS armor of Leopard 2A6 is ~ 1.8 to 1.9 meter. Here is a good vid of Leo 2 Revolution, wonder if it is thicker than Challenger 2 quoted at 4.2m...

Do you know terminal velocity of Smerch? Since it is 300mm it should be a big target for AA, but it is ballistic missile so it should be hi speed.

Could you say more, what need to be changed? How should tank be used in future? I saw some tanks pretty bad damaged, what damaged them, RPG, arty,?

What are those blocks on Type 99 turret? ERA or composite blocks?

Does anyone has the info about diameter of the case of 120/ 125mm ammunition? @militarysta, if you have a chance, could you please measure the diameter of the propellant part of the ammunition? It looks bigger than gun diameter.

That why I just guess, not know exactly.

I can't upload attachment, this forum seems don't have that function. So PM me your email address, I will send it to you.

Hi Andrei, The below image shows AMAP where the armor stop RPG 29 equivalent with precursor. The problem is German estimate rpg 29 as 800mm, and they estimate STANAG 4569 lvl 3 is 25mm RHA, because there is 7.62 tungsten core with 20mm penetration. So it is a safe strategy to overestimate the...

Thanks for your info The problem with this, as I don't consider them space efficient, is because it uses a lot of space between outer armor and inner hull, often in the range of 700mm. This space is important for semi active armor like NERA because it allows the jet to have time to be...

I don't have any evidence, it is just a guess since most urban configs of Leo: Leo 2 PSO, Leo 2A4M, Leo 2A7+ use the same side armor thickness and the company develop it consider rpg 29 is a widespread threat at 0 degree attack angle.

I am trying to figure out current the most volume efficient armor vs shaped charge. For example, Leopard 2a7 seems to provide protection against rpg (assume it is rpg 29 with 600+mm) by 250mm side skirt + 700mm space + 50mm RHA = 1000mm, volume efficiency is 0.6 The turret of this tank has...

Many thanks militarysta

militarysta, do you have any estimate on LOS thickness of T series like the pictures you have done with western tanks?

IMO the HE shell has better fragment penetration than pre fragment because it has more weight to produce fragment, so better for anti armor, e.g denote at side or top of armored vehicle

Good for you Poles, and what is the LOS thickness of special cavity in Leo2A4? Questions about Hellfire AGM: The Hellfire 114R has HE capability, but how good is it compare to say 105 or 155 HE shell. It seems Hellfire carries more explosive than even 155mm shell (global security site says...

Thanks militarysta and methos Any estimation of this penetration? I counted 22 blocks, don't know it is 5cm or 10cm blocks

The latest Hellfire 114R multi purpose has a shaped charge to replace the anti tank version but with low angle compare to previous version. Any explain? 114R Previous versions

It seems Abrams skirts are hold by small hinges and work well