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  1. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    IMHO there was no need to replace the SLRs in the 90s with Insas. Back then Pakis were our primary adversary. They were using G-3s back then and still using that now as their standard infantry firearm. Modernized SLRs and reverse engineered AKs (for CI role) should have been the choice in the...
  2. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Why was SLR 1C not accepted in the 90s? Why was Para FAL version not considered, given OFB's previous experience in making SLRs? Why was Insas R-2 rejected in 2017? The answer according to IA is 'recoil'. Now the question arises why should the 'recoil' yardstick not applied to Sigs? Now we...
  3. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Overall length of SLR(Fixed butt) was about 44-45 inches with 21 inch barrel. Overall length of AK-47 (Fixed butt) was about 35-36 inches with 16.3 inch barrel. Overall length of Insas-1B (Fixed butt) was about 37.8 inches with 18.3 inch barrel. Overall length of Sig-716 was about 37-38...
  4. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    A soldier can only carry a few rounds of 84 mm CG ammunition. After the rounds are exhausted or worst malfunctions (coming from OFB, this is quite possible), he needs some armed protection. Hence the need for some sidearm.
  5. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    This looks like a heavily armed squad. Only deficiency is the lack of stopping power of MP9. I think Caracal, side folding Bulgarian AK, JVPC or even the new TAR carbine will be a more apt option for the person operating the CG.
  6. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

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  7. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Interesting graphics and specifications of Sig 716i
  8. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Ironically, the balanced recoil mechanism was patented in 1908 by Ludwig Mertens from UK and patented in USA as US Patent number 891,778, invention is titled as “Non-recoiling firearm”. This patent has long been expired. He conceptualized that barrel and bolt moving in opposite directions...
  9. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    This is a reasonable price for an AK variant. Turns out to be $408. Also,both TAR and Ghatak have received very favourable reviews within the CAPFs and armed forces.Whereas, for the watered down AK203, Ruskies are quoting $1100. Also, the OFB is quoting 75000-80000 for R2 rifle. This price needs...
  10. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Army will most probably have a separate tender for scopes for Sig 716. Question is whether Air-force and Navy, who are also getting small numbers of Sigs, will issue their separate tenders?
  11. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Solution of this problem already exists in the form of a balanced recoil system where to counter the impulse of the bolt carrier moving back, a special rod moves forward at precisely the same time. Both counter balancing rod and bolt carrier are connected to the gas system and linked to each...
  12. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Muzzle brakes are experimentally proven to reduce recoil force and recoil distance. Many tests have been carried out in USA for a variety of ammunition. For example: http://2poqx8tjzgi65olp24je4x4n-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/How-Muzzle-Brakes-Affect-Recoil1.gif
  13. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Regarding Sig 716 is concerned, it was always meant to be a fast track purchase and rest 5.5 lac 7.62*51 mm was meant to manufactured in India by OFB. Also, army gave time in 2017-2018, to the OFB for R2 to mature and army is deeply involved in this project. On-on one, the Sig 716 is probably a...
  14. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Jamming issue was solved in Excalibur MK1C itself in 2015-16, with combined effort from OFB, ARDE and Army. But army changed caliber requirement, so OFB came up with a scaled up version of Excalibur MK1C called R2.
  15. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    I agree with that part. But OFB has decided to put it on their R2 rifle, to reduce the recoil. Though it has its own disadvantages, but it is much simpler to implement. If they were being innovative, they could have gone with some kind of spring system in the receiver section, or a M4 style...
  16. shuvo@y2k10

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Other positive reviews of Sig 716i From Small arms solution From TFB TV From Pew pew tactical Bottom line: Sig 716i is highly reliable and very accurate. It can do sub MOA with match grade ammo and 2-3 MOA with standard ball ammo. However, recoil is somewhat lower than standard AR-10...
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