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So what you are saying is that stealth fighters will only ever be used to fight either third world or small air forces that will not be able to produce / procure them? That is the assumption behind your post. My point was, if all major air forces go for stealth, likelyhood of dogfights...

Stealth is actually a weapons system that was primarily developed to deal with enemy ground-based radars. F-117, B-2, F-35, and if memory serves me even F-22, were all developed to penetrate enemy air defences. But as US have always sworn by the radar-based BVR combat, at some point it also...

Stealth versus stealth is precisely what I was talking about: it will significantly reduce the engagement distance, and it will reduce practical engagement distance even more than that. But even against opponents that are not stealthy, utility of BVR engagements is questionable.

If stealth works, they have to be built for dogfight because that is the only way they will be able to fight each other. If dogfighting is useless, this means stealth doesn't work, which means that 5th generation fighters are useless. And frankly, I think dogfighting will be important even for...

Personally, I'd say that Su-57 offers a better balance of characteristics than F-22 or F-35 do.