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  1. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    The indigenous T-90 gun that was initially manufactured in 2006 was a failure. It wasn't based on Arjun's gun. That is actually impossible. One was developed by ARDE (Arjun) while the other was developed by OFB (modified 2A46). Due to the failure IA refused to accept the T-90s. In 2008, the...
  2. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Militarysta us right. Nobody will provide ToT on armor and ammo. Export version ToT also is a big maybe. We will have to build our own stuff for this.
  3. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) I will repeat this again as I had done in 2010. This article was flawed and gave only one side of the story. It is very sensationalist. The real story is in the interview that was posted here. The Army commanders gave Arjun the thumbs up in terms of...
  4. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    That would be incorrect. Pretty much all the exercises we had to date has been in deserts. There is nothing wrong with the T-90 functioning in deserts. Most of the fleet had completed more than half their engine life cycle due to exercises and training, mostly in the deserts. There is only...
  5. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    About Kanchan. As of today the only thing we know from official sources is that the armour is better than what's on the T-72M1. Apart from that we don't know anything about it. Heck we don't even know the official designation of the armour. Comparing the armour to western equivalents is...
  6. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    No, it is confirmed officially. Indian T-90s have 130mm Kanchan inserts.
  7. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Arjun didn't exist when the T-90 was chosen by the army. It was as simple as that. When Arjun was ready, the army didn't need it. There really isn't much to think about there. In the end we still chose the better tank. According to what Kunal Biswas said, something about made in India and...
  8. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Pmaitra, there is a huge difference in the types of comments chiefs make depending on the situation. VKS's comment on the T-90 was an operational one. His comment on indigenization is nationalistic hubris. It is only a wish. Definitely not attainable in his lifetime no matter what anybody...
  9. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    What's disappointing is that even people like Ajai Shukla were not aware of "real" facts. He actually had to go to OFB and hear it from the chief to find out that T-90's ToT was completed long time ago. As a matter of fact, there is not a peep from Shukla dissing the T-90 nowadays. Before his...
  10. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Repeated these statements so many times that it has become impossible to differentiate between correct reports and wrong reports. Do you know that the Catherine failure from 2004 was published and republished so many times that the latest one in 2011 was a reprint of the original and someone...
  11. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Just admit the Arjun tank is the best tank there is. Just admit the IA generals were all corrupt when they chose the T-90. Nothing short of saying Arjun is the best would let you off the hook. The actual developers of weapons systems in India will tell you to your face that they are nowhere...
  12. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    It is a 80s design which means technology from anywhere between 60s and 80s. It is currently an early cold war design. You are trying too hard. He won't understand and you are only wasting time. Can we move forward?
  13. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    FMBT to focus on weight reduction of battle tanks, says DRDO chief FMBT to focus on weight reduction of battle tanks, says DRDO chief - Express India
  14. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Would seem like it when we take Arjun Mk2s weight to be 67 tonnes (with mine trawl attached, I suppose) and it ends up offering the same level of protection as the T-90S with ERA. The turret is massive compared to Leo 2A4. So less armor for volume. With Dejawolf's pics showing the lack of...
  15. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Firstly, I am under no obligation to prove everything I say, you can take it or leave it. Secondly, the fact that Arjun's penetration capabilities was lesser than T-90s was known since the day specs and pics were released for the guns and shells for both tanks. Thirdly, they are comparing...
  16. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Does change things when real facts are brought out, doesn't it?
  17. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    This was posted twice. I don't have the patience to find it. There was a 2 part video, we even discussed the video for quite sometime. A lot of the misconceptions of the Arjun vs T-90 trial was cleared in that. 4 army commanders talking about both tanks. So, a completely well supported claim.
  18. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Of course not. :)
  19. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    In the interview or debate with the army commanders, they identified that the Arjun's APFSDS penetration is lesser than on T-90S.
  20. p2prada

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Prasun was quite sure that Saab LEDS-150 has been chosen. Hard kill APS is most probably part of the upgrade package for T-90, we know Arjun will have it.
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