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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) I don't think so. The "fragments from random web" show everything clearly. The arguments in this thread will not end - but not because the lack of evidence, but rather because people are not interested in seeing them. If the photographs were ultra-HD panoramic...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) If posting photographs from the Arjun was enough, then this discussion would have ended 5-6 months ago.
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    No, you didn't say anything like that. You may have meant it, but didn't write anything limiting the amount of T-90s you were talking about - you did quite the contrary, because you said some "Kanchan is the best"-gibberish, after I explicitly said that there are many different T-90 versions...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    :facepalm: No. You simply are incapable of understanding the difference between spin-stabilized and fin-stabilized ammunition. The gun is not more accurate, when fin-stabilized ammunition is used, which is the only modern type of ammunition. So much about your "facts". Sure, it is a widely...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    No, I don't agree with that. There are several different versions of the T-90 with different armour. But as mentioned by several other posters here, the Indian T-90s are fitted with Kanchan armour, because the T-90 deal didn't include the transfer of armour technology. It's the same as the...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    The Indian T-90s are fitted with Kanchan according to various persons here like e.g. Kunal Biswas. Which advantages did you state? Firing more accurately, what happened only at the second attempt in the trials? Carrying more ammunition because apparently 39 would be more than 42? Having a...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    I did not mean that they tested one Arjun vs one T-90. According to other Indian posters here, the Arjuns did on the first attempt of the comparative trials perform worse than the T-90, which lead to a second attempt a few days later with modifications being done on the Arjuns.
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    The Arjun Mk 1 is only superior in some minor factors and as whole system is not better than the T-90. So what sense would it make to induct it into service as main tank instead of the T-90, which is better in many important aspects (armour layout, main gun, ammunition) and at the same time much...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    It is interessting to see, that after reaching the page 99, the original topic of this discussion is lost and being ignored. Like many other fans of the Arjun, you prefer to claim that your Army is either stupid or corrupt, instead of assuming that they make their decissions on a reasonable...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    The typical SteelBeasts armor overestimations...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    You cannot determine the hardness of all materials with the same tests, thus there are multiple different hardness scales. Some types of determining the hardness are largely redundant and only used because of different country using different systems (the Vickers Hardness Scale for example is...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Which is another way to say that there is no optical difference...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    And you can see that because of what?
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    He bases his estimations on Paul Lakowskis works, which are based on sciene papers from international symposium, science journals and technical literature. He provides references to the used sources and everyone willing to invest a few bucks can buy them. This is not "hosh-posh with science". I...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    The Leopard 2 hull is 7.57 m long. 4 m is a working figure for the turret depending on wether you in- or exclude the external storage at the turret rear. The rest of the size is gun overhang...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    @Dejawolf You are doing a really good job imo...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Spall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Can you read, pmaitra?
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Spall is created by the penetrated armour: The spall angle is dependant on armour thickness, armour material, impact velocity and type of projectile. Tests with MG ammunition on lightly armoured vehicles have shown that the spall angle can be greater than 87° (which means that everything...
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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Do you know the words "spall", "splash" and "cook off"? It is not. This has been said already more than 10 pages ago. It depends on the situation. Arjun's ammo and hydraulics is unisolated and spread widely in the whole tank's volume. T-90's ammunition is all stored in hull and the tank is...
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