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    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Yes, from five kilometres and this is for NATO triple heavy target sir. Not the ammunition.
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    So my estimate of just above 200 mm is correct :wat::whoa::rofl:
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Yes, I keep lying and putting words into your mouth. Keep running away from the fact that Arjun's ammunition is bad. Darn, you are frustrating when you don't see the truth when it is staring in your face.
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology My answer is posted at a section of your post, You are assuming that NATO targets are tough to penetrate. NATO triple heavy target is only ~115 mm of extra dense RHA(400 HB? - 270 is standard for measuring armour thickness) angled at 65 degrees, it...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology NATO triple heavy targets have been defeated at 5000 metres by vintage 105 mm rounds. Your point being? NATO armour targets were made to represent the T-10 heavy tank, an evolution of the IS series. Completely stupid comparing the armour of T-10...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology He takes two different places for the 108 cm and 133 cm values?
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology So my speculation could be correct? :wat: :whoa:
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Perhaps Hunnicutt's data was for an older, or in-development L/44 and these are for the in-service weapons? How did he mention the weapon? "German 120 mm smoothbore gun" or "M256"? If he explicitly mentioned M256 gun, I am wrong in the above...
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    @ersakthivel, Lidsky is now @hest.
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    No use continuing. I give up. :okay: You do not seem to understand the grave situation we are at.
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Wrong. Proof pressure is proof pressure. Not all parts of the barrel are autofrettaged to more than 612 mpa. APFSDS rounds of the West fire at 520-570 mpa at 15/22 degree Celsius. At 50-60 degrees like in Thar desert, the value would be much higher...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology The source please. I wouldn't mind if you can provide it even tomorrow.
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology @Kunal Biswas, I ask the same question they ask you. Where is the source that says penetration is 470 mm? And any source for how MK-2's ammunition will be better? I'd suggest we wait till DefExpo 2014 till we make such conclusions...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology By your logic sir, the Rh 120 L/44 has a 706 mpa-1000 mpa chamber pressure and the 2A46M-2 has 650 mpa-??? mpa chamber pressure. And the light LLR/47 has a 706-1100 mpa when it is lighter than L/44. All lighter and better :sad: Composite armour...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology If he does not accept this fact, do not keep repeating it. It will be in vain.
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology We never asked for hardened electronics or AC. And they were teething problems. Not major ones. Easily fixable. It was IA's mistake not asking for AC along with the tank. I wouldn't feel a thing, because I know that if I were the Army Chief, I...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology See my post. I have already answered the same. We agree that gun and ammunition is very bad. If someone said crap like that, I am sorry. I have not seen anyone claim that so far, you are remembering the famous sinodefence post which claimed that...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Current ammunition is very poor. And the gun is very bad - much inferior to 2A46M-2 and later 2A46. Not to mention that India's T-90S later orders and T-90MS have their design based on new build T-90A and T-90AM of Russian Army, and T-90MS has...
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology @Damian, you mentioned Chieftain and Challenger 1 had no mantlet. How could the gun traverse without movement of turret? And would there be any stabilization? Wouldn't the gun be exposed? And what about co-axial armament. Confused.
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    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Indeed. I see your view. But still, there is the unresolved LOS thickness matter. Let's wait till next year. BTW From when to when will the Def Expo 2014 be held? --------------- 401!
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