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  1. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Rather te question is what point we will use to mesure something :-)
  2. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology yes, it's one of the posibilities
  3. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology You know -technology and metalurgy is not hold in one place. While H. was writing his books value 630Mpa could be true. I give data from middle 1990s. So almoust 14 years later then Leo-2AV and XM-1 competition in USA...
  4. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Sure, till now any cut-viev or DRDO ads shown 120mm ammo on circa 300mm level :-) so sorry - you are writing about non existing now ammo. further...further...further not now. Yes, I had, and I post this many times here...
  5. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Rather was prooven there many times that you are comopletly wrong, and you are unable to mesure one dimesnsion properly mister "730mm long bar holder" or "600mm LOS behind main sight". Sorry you are no partner for discuss about this.
  6. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology I don't think soo - those data are taking from offcial manual - first is from Strv.122 instruction, second is...well I let this for myself :-) More or less for swedish L-44 used in Strv.122 we have: working pressure - 672MPa construction pressure...
  7. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology
  8. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Im back :) Sure, accoding to exist analogy it's circa 300mm RHA for 2000m. And this value is comfirmed in data's. Exept bad quality IMI and other clones made in India T-90S have 3BM42 APFSDS which circa 460-520mm RHA on 2000m. So what is...
  9. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Re: Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology Most of this is pure propaganda. Till now India haven't good enought gun technology and 125mm 2A46M4/M5 avaible in Ob.188A2 (T-90A) is mucht better then any gun avaible in India. Amunition for 125mm in India (3BM42) is sitll better then those funny...
  10. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Yes, of course - Leopard-2A0-A4 had weak point (650mm LOS) after main sight. In end of the 1980s those value was consider as to small to achive some protection level, so during KWS program Germans decided to put EMES-15 sight higher and added aditional armour cavity before main sight "doghouse"...
  11. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Which edge? Those on front "glass" main sight window box? I completly don't understand you men. We are talking about huge weak spot after main sight window block. No, I can't understand your point - mark on photo about what magical 300mm you are writing, and how it makes difrence in armour...
  12. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    There is no "300mmm" distance. It's bullshit. The lenght of those "bar" is easy to find - circa 52cm. The same lenght you have "put" in to gun mantled mask edge. The distance is less then 100mm to the window block main sight. More or less gunner is siting very close to the gun and direct after...
  13. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Well Im not sure here,but it's sure that india got: 1) 42 redy tanks in 2001 from Russia - named T-90S (Ob.188S) whit cast steel turrets and well known simple armour from Ob.184 (T-72B) (I had describe it dozens time) 2) second batch in 2002 (82 tanks) got welded turret whit diffrent armour...
  14. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    It's rather sure. I have source and details. Source is polish article in military press: Tomasz Szulc,Nowe czołgi naszych wschodnich sąsiadów: T-90MS i Opłot-M, Nowa Technika Wojskowa, 9/2012, s.13-14 Tomasz Szul, The new tanks our estern neighbors: T-90MS i Opłot-M, New Military...
  15. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    But it doesn't mean that Kanchan is on avarage world level now, or it's better then pak T-80UD armour. What resons? That kanchan survive used in IA obsolate APFSDS and HESH ammo? And Single SC warhed? It's not funny now, becouse those ammo was on middle 1980s level. IMHO whole talking about...
  16. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Most Indian user claim that T-90S (Ob.188A1) whit welded turret sold to India have kanchan armour couse Russia don't sold armour technology to India.
  17. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    About Arjun and T-90S. @methos @Damian @Kunal @other users Propably Indian industry have compare between next Kanchan armour models and Ob.184 armour (T-72B) becouse the same armour -based on cast steel and simple NERA plates was used in fist bathes Ob.188 (T-90) whit cast turret and...
  18. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    I will not duplicate STGN job. many times yours argument where destroyed and I don't see any point in doing this again. It's first reson - second - my job will be definetly not as good as STGN was so there is no point to make whorse copy of His job. I posted many times my ow job on draw or arjun...
  19. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    No you don't. Your "proofs" was many times refuted by Methos, Dejawolf and STGN job on photos. Even stupid draw whit mesurmant or scale from book shows something else then you try to proof. It's not my foult that you were wrong.
  20. militarysta

    Arjun vs T90 MBT

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us DRDO width - 3864mm red line 256px - 3864mm 190px - 2867mm (2,86m) 158px - 2384mm (2,38m) 20px - 301mm (30cm...) 24px - 362mm (36cm) 44px - 664mm (64cm) 55px (thickest option) - ~830mm (80-84cm) Mesurment on draw, on orginal book draw we have scale...
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