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  1. nongaddarliberal

    Protests in Karachi, Islamabad, Faisalabad, Lahore

    Doesn't change the fact that the Turkish army had been intervening whenever the country was turning Islamist before. The point is that the institution itself is secular. Or rather, was secular. Don't know where it's going now.
  2. nongaddarliberal

    Protests in Karachi, Islamabad, Faisalabad, Lahore

    Turkish army itself is secular. One of the roles that Ataturk bequeathed to the Turkish army was to do a coup every time the civilian government turned Islamist. They consistently used to bring turkey back to the secular path, but they failed miserably with Erdogan. This is assuming the recent...
  3. nongaddarliberal

    Protests in Karachi, Islamabad, Faisalabad, Lahore

    Please check out the factors indicating standard of living in a country, such as per capita income, life expectancy, personal savings, malnutrition rate, poverty rate etc. In all these things the average pakistani is only slightly behind the average Indian. Literacy rate is the only thing in...
  4. nongaddarliberal

    Protests in Karachi, Islamabad, Faisalabad, Lahore

    I'm not talking about conventional military strength. That India already has. I'm talking about improving the society and economy to such an extent that it is nearly invulnerable to pakistani attempts of sabotage, all the while having the ability to use RAW to wreak havoc in Pakistan without...
  5. nongaddarliberal

    Protests in Karachi, Islamabad, Faisalabad, Lahore

    I was skeptical about this since the beginning. Sure, it's funny to see all this chaos in pakistan, but is it truly chaos? I have a feeling their army is orchestrating this, but for what purpose, I don't know. Maybe someone can enlighten me on that. But all the talk of pakistan "collapsing" is a...
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