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  1. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Nothing happens without money and technical expertise. India can launch its own string of pearls if it has resources. Stopping Chinese Navy expansion is an unattainable goal. The immediate goal should be to make island territory and continental coastline secure. I think a crash program to build...
  2. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    @sob, a naval war between China and India is far-fetched. India wont go into east and south china seas, and China knows it cannot overpower India in Bay of Bengal. I know what USA is saying but I just don't see how it benefits India. The best way to keep sea lanes open is to keep animosity...
  3. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    There are only two types of alliances which succeed: one is a meeting of equals against a third much larger power; second, a strong power giving protection to a weak power. I see either of this not obtaining in this alliance. So this translates to only mind games and little on the ground. The...
  4. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Issue is not only China. Issue is that every single country in this four way "alliance" has only limited overlap of objectives. As I said an alliance which is only in naval field and not overall is bound to sink. India is still a continental power. While long sea coast may lull us into a false...
  5. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Don't read too much into naval exercises. It is a long road from an exercise to joint operations. The story of defence cooperation with Japan is not a sweet one. My point is that a purely naval alliance is unlikely to work great.
  6. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Australians don't trust Indians. Plus Australia is not a serious military power. Japan is a closed nation. It has difficulty trusting anybody. At most, it is limited cooperation between USA and India.
  7. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Do you think USA will concede to India "control of IOR". Even otherwise it is not possible. Control of an ocean the size of Indian ocean is not practical.
  8. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    I do not see what great benefit India can derive from it. A coalition desired by USA (Japan, Australia, USA, India) is not workable. At most India can cooperate with USA. Its impact will not be much. A selective "Naval" pact will not give India any great benefit. India is pretty much on an...
  9. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    India should look at avenues of cooperation with neighbours despite hostility. It sounds difficult but is the only long term solution. For example a train track from Kolkata passing through Bangladesh, Burma, Thailand, Malaysia can boost trade with these countries and in turn boost the economy...
  10. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Cooperative security arrangements are better than hostility. India needs security of trade, first and foremost. Issues at sea are different from issues at land.
  11. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    American aid to Pakistan has been greater than Chinese aid to Pakistan. That did not stop India from building a relationship with USA or even purchase large amount of arms. World is more complex than it seems. One has to dig deep, and not merely look at the surface if a solution to complex...
  12. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Heavy playing up of the "Chinese Threat"! Rather India should go for cooperative security in IOR. Rather than bunching up against China, India can cooperate with China to ensure safety of sea routes. BRICS may be the model to peace in this world.
  13. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Is it a military developed plan or a GOI sanctioned plan? If we want to have significant influence on eastern seaboard of Africa, that will require much more than a Carrier. I think correct start would be to set up airbases. Taking responsibility for other countries is a big one. Control of...
  14. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    India did not have a military relationship with USSR up to 1961 war. It was only in the aftermath that India rushed to develop sources. My point is that equating USSR and Russia is flawed. USSR had an ideology, which drove its actions. Russia is a normal nationalistic country. In this respect...
  15. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    Your views are simplistic. Real world does not work like that. There is no simple trade relationship in military field. This is the reason military alliances exist.
  16. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    You ask yourself, you are buying American arms at high cost. Will these weapons be supported in wartime? Will you have spares and replacements? Will your industry be able to service these?
  17. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    I pray the day never comes when India has to fight China. Whereas a fight with Pakistan is almost certain. We will see how much USA will help in fight with Pakistan. India was buying US and UK arms when 61 war happened. India did not ask USSR to supply. Your knowledge of history is defective...
  18. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    They will learn all about you and then use it to kill you. Chinese are smart. They take the tech but keep distance otherwise.
  19. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    A person needs strength of conviction and courage to kill an enemy. Just holding a gun and able to fire does not suffice. India has faced four wars since independence in which most important was 1971. The ally at that time who gave wholehearted support was Russia, not USA. Your nuclear sub is...
  20. garg_bharat

    United States and India signed Naval fuel agreement

    You are incapable of using a gun. So I guess you will hide in a basement.
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