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  1. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    You cannot guess what would have happened if govt. had not wasted money on HAL but instead prodded TATA. Defence is a different sector and needs both seed capital by the govt. as well as initial support even in case of private company. What TATA could have brought to the table are project...
  2. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    A friend of mine is working on laser technology to detect rotten packed food. He needs to develop miniature laser which can detect rotten smell and display the result on the package. And of course it has to be super cheap! Does that sound like frontier or not? Miniaturizing laser can do many...
  3. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Really!! Do you know how profs research? They hire poor Research assistants who have no other option but to be slave. Actually in science, people do PhD then a post doc, then another post doc to finally try and land up with some university as a prof. It means like 10+ years of slavery. Most of...
  4. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Do you know the amount of money US doles out in NSF? It is huge. Most new research comes out of universities and that is why big cities have big universities. It might not aid military development directly, but if there are trained persons, military hardware companies can hire them. But...
  5. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Students the eternal slaves Sent from my MI 3W using Tapatalk
  6. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    India is a big country and can afford two competitors like Lockheed and Boeing in the US. There can be diversity in what they produce but they should get enough opportunities and incentives to compete.
  7. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Being short on funds for 30+ years to hide inefficiency. People are so mean with HAL. Only if HAL had customers and had to put up financials like Air India, we would have called them out for what they are- inefficient.
  8. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    One govt. arm is paying the other and these guys want to believe it is so difficult!
  9. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    I would like to correct you on IISc.- what you said is true but only partially. GoI does not infuse the kind of money into research as foreign countries. But why are the profs. there still teaching? Pros- - Low work pressure - Almost no answerability Cons- - low income (these guys could have...
  10. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Here you go with the best possible information set. Algeria just bought Su-30MKA which is just Su-30MKI except for avionics. The price can be found here: http://www.defenseworld.net/news/14034/Algeria_to_Purchase_14_Russian_Sukhoi_Su_30_Fighter_Jets#.Vhl9G5fh6PQ "The latest Algerian Su-30...
  11. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    @gadeshi - Is it possible for you to find out the per plane cost of Su-30SM recently ordered by Russian Air force? Su-30SM is pretty close to Su-30MKI.
  12. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Just allow some competition and you would see all your favourite PSUs would be standing in front of Fin. Min. with a bowl. ISRO is different but well let us keep it aside.
  13. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    384 crore is from the CAG report in 2012 for 40 aircrafts to be delivered between 2013-2016. Given HAL's efficiency, the cost could have ballooned to 440 crore today. Since the latest news report says 440 crore, it is the most updated piece of information. But you can bury your head in the sand...
  14. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    He does not want to read two CAG reports posted on this thread. @pmaitra - who needs spoon feeding now? Anyway, I am done for today.
  15. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    This thread is made precisely for people like you. Your reading/not reading does not change anything. At least other posters on this thread genuinely tried to read what I posted.
  16. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    It is not for him but for others to read and understand. Anyone with basic comprehension skills can see through the farce.
  17. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    You can write whatever you like. Writing in dollars does not change anything!!:playball:
  18. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Sometimes its better to read first post on the thread. It has this link: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/iaf-frets-over-russian-fighter-aircraft-deal/articleshow/49235168.cms?from=mdr "At present, a Sukhoi 30 MKI that would cost Rs 227 crores to manufacture in Russia, rolls out...
  19. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    440 crore is from the recent news-report, feel free to ignore it like all other points. You can continue to ignore everything to further cement your fanboy reputation spread all over this thread!!
  20. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    HAL does not print money. It is tax payers money and so it matters. SO it is very much possible that new cost is 440crores.
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