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  1. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    @Shaitan, one small correction to my earlier comment. WP locomotives were designed in India, the initial batches were made in US and Canada, and the rest were made by CLW. So, India was not only importing from Britain, but also from US and Canada.
  2. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    In that case, TATA should get to produce 8 LCA in parallel with HAL producing 8 LCA. That will make both compete with each other, and hopefully, will improve quality and punctuality. So that there is economic viability, I would hope more LCA orders to follow. As discussed earlier, GoI should...
  3. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Tata was making locomotives. They simply could not compete with British made locomotives, and Indian Railways continued to purchase from the British and eventually CLW and DLW were set up. Tata moved over to trucks. Nobody stopped them from producing locomotives. They just were not up to the...
  4. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    @Shaitan, private companies were restricted by the License Raj. However, if the government wanted a private company to build something, they would have cleared the road for them. The truth is that we just did not have any private company to do what HAL is supposed to do. If the government wanted...
  5. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Yes, my comment is a woulda-coulda comment. Hypothetical. We can make a fresh start at this point. Like you suggested, I am all for the government funding private companies with seed capital. We have a lot of areas where this could be done. One area is a jet turbine. Let there be a private...
  6. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    We need not care about VW because we have alternatives. For HAL, we have none. I am not defending Air India. I am against privatization of HAL. Yes, competition is essential. HAL has no competitor. This is a rehash of point 1 above. A government agency can, by definition, perform better than a...
  7. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Tandem would mean one after the other. So yes, once one batch of students pass out, the subsequent batch of students will work on the next grant. That is how it works in the US. Big research will continue, while students will keep passing out after contributing to their phase.
  8. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    So you decided to renounce Mad Indian's Preferred Vocabulary, or is this an exceptional post? :lol: Ok, you propose an alternative. Ultimately, GoI will take the final call.
  9. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Been there. Done that. :) _________________________
  10. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Like how several universities and institutions collaborated for the ISRO MOM project.
  11. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    A better way to do this is for the government to increase research grants to universities. That way, you get work done by research students for a relatively less cost. Research students are motivated because they are working towards their degrees. This is how it works in the US. Grants are...
  12. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    That is true. There has to be a large volume. I don't know whether HAL has a performance based compensation. OFB has a performance based compensation. That is one way to motivate people to meet qualitative standards.
  13. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    I would expect a quicker turnaround. Let ADA design and hand over the design to HAL, Tata, Mahindra. After the first batch is delivered, the one that does the best job should get the following contracts. We need to have competing assembly lines. R&D will have to be in the Public Sector. No...
  14. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Good. How soon will Tata, Mahindra, etc., be able to produce a rival to the LCA?
  15. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    That is why I had said earlier, let private companies compete with HAL. I am for competitors. I am against privatization of HAL as many suggest. Privatization won't change anything. Without competitors, HAL will be a monopoly. No news about Mahindra Aerospace. Not holding my breath. I do not...
  16. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Of course private companies are funded by us. If we don't buy their products, they go bust. Whatever happened to Standard 2000 and Hindustan Motors? Go take some lessons on capitalism. As I said, argue based on facts, not feelz.
  17. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Yes, we have gone through this many times, and every time, it is the same rehash of the same vague narrative. Ok, no issues there. Whether you care about VW or not is entirely your choice. If you can resist the urge to proffer privatization as the magic solution, then you can afford to not...
  18. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    What critical point needs to be understood, by anyone, Marxist or otherwise? What do we need to do against HAL? And why?
  19. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Good point @jackprince. @The enlightened, please do not conflate those that are risking their lives and those sitting in comfy offices and writing articles for various media or doing desk jobs deciding what is to be purchased. Think of the T-90 saga. Those soldiers, i.e. the T-90 crew, who...
  20. pmaitra

    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    HF-24 Marut was an excellent platform, but it needed a stronger engine. India did not have such an engine, and with the 1974 nuke tests and the consequent sanctions, India could not procure an engine, which killed the HF-24 Marut. IAF should not be blamed for this. The good news is, now we have...
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