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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Correct that as shown below: I'll wait for the next CAG report. :bounce:
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    :rofl: What a funny debate. The french had asked for the production costing of Su-30MKI. They were politely refused. Seems like ToI group is playing for the french. Arre even if its 440 crore then it must be so in the international market too. HAL is not paid a negotiated sale price. HAL gets...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    @Peter No you are creating an argument to match what you wish for. Helicopters, SLVs, Military Aircrafts, Civilian Aircrafts, UAVs, Overhauling Aircrafts/Engines - all constitute different categories and different final products and all of these take individually demand a separate though...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Ok got it Note No. 27 on page 37 of your link. Look again I had to find the same thing from another report. :devil: But no way is the differential as big as you people are trying to make it look. And this small difference should be acceptable considering the deep tech transfer that will help...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Bhaad mein jaye 'onus of proof'. While importing cheap at the cost of indigenous production, is not a panacea still it can be done for some cases - like a new relationship (read Rafale) or for exigencies (read Su-30MKI). What is completely erroneous is the conclusion that if HAL cannot make it...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    @Mad Indian can you repost that source link. I also do not have that info. The difference in cost is to my view is quite believable but I am sure it has nearly nothing to do with HAL's competency levels. I won't be surprised if its some cost comparison put out by our current CAG (who earlier...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    So is every other corporate. So are nearly all citizens of India :p. But how does corruption figure in this. Look at it like this. If HAL is incompetent despite so much going for it then multi-furcating HAL would only yield more incompetent units. My take is that there are more than enough...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    The productlines that HAL operates are by themselves no less challenging compared to others in the world. Launch Vehicles at rates that would put most countries to shame. Help with the prototypes of aircrafts, Helos, UAVs of several different kinds. Actual production management. Some designing...
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    Excellent. Now what about production levels and learning curves. HAL cannot do much better because the holy defense budget is hogged by a few who want to continue their fiefdom. Russian make 100 self designed jets an year and HAL makes 16.
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    Is HAL inefficient? Should Govt. split it?

    I hate HAL for the retirement planning den it is for the IAF leadership. Basically I don't want to do them a favour but some of your points/data are either wrong or incomplete or your conclusions are wrong. HAL was not the cause of the failure of MMRCA. HAL could not have manufactured the...
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