India clears $275 mn order for T-72 tank recovery vehicles

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CVRDE developing new repair and recovery vehicle for Army

Chennai, Oct 13 (PTI): A new Armoured Repair and Recovery Vehicle for the Indian Army, a variant of the Arjun Main Battle Tank, is being developed by the Combat Vehicles Research and Development Establishment here. "We have recently received the project to meet the demand of the Army in mission mode. The project is to develop a recovery vehicle for Army use in Indian terrain," DRDO sources told PTI. The DRDO lab in Chennai will develop two prototypes in the next three years. "It will be a Arjun variant. The hull, including the chassis automative system will almost be the same as Arjun Mark II and slight modifications will be made to accommodate a crane and a winch since it will be a recovery vehicle" the officials said. The concept and configuration of ARRV has already been finalised and CVRDE has now initiated its detailed design, he said. The Army is expected to order 30 units if the Chennai-based DRDO lab satisfies its specifications in the first two units. The new ARRV will weigh around 65 tons and function as a recovery vehicle for the Army in tough terrain as well as in extreme climatic conditions.
CVRDE developing new repair and recovery vehicle for Army, IBN Live News

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India clears $275 mn order for T-72 tank recovery vehicles


NEW DELHI: India on Thursday cleared a repeat order worth Rs.1,350 crore ($275 million) for 650 armoured recovery and repair vehicles for its 1,500 T-72 Ajeya main battle tanks.

The Cabinet Committee on Security, which met here under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, cleared the defence ministry's proposal and approved the orders to be placed with defence public sector undertaking Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML), according to government sources.

The defence PSU will build the armoured recovery and repair vehicles through technology transfer from Polish company Bumar, with which it had signed an agreement on this, the sources said.

BEML and Bumar came together in February 2003 when they signed a memorandum of understanding.

India clears $275 mn order for T-72 tank recovery vehicles - The Economic Times

[note] this is just 1hr ago news.

so which is true??? or right option!!!!!
 
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India clears $275 mn order for T-72 tank recovery vehicles


NEW DELHI: India on Thursday cleared a repeat order worth Rs.1,350 crore ($275 million) for 650 armoured recovery and repair vehicles for its 1,500 T-72 Ajeya main battle tanks.


The Cabinet Committee on Security, which met here under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, cleared the defence ministry's proposal and approved the orders to be placed with defence public sector undertaking Bharat Earth Movers Limited (BEML), according to government sources.


The defence PSU will build the armoured recovery and repair vehicles through technology transfer from Polish company Bumar, with which it had signed an agreement on this, the sources said.


BEML and Bumar came together in February 2003 when they signed a memorandum of understanding.




India clears $275 mn order for T-72 tank recovery vehicles - The Economic Times
 

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650 recovery vehicles for 1500 tanks! Isn't that a tad too much? i mean do we really need a recovery vehicle for every two tanks?
 

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650 recovery vehicles for 1500 tanks! Isn't that a tad too much? i mean do we really need a recovery vehicle for every two tanks?
Very well said. Most other armies use a supply Tank i.e. used to hold additional ammo etc.. I hear.
any such thing in our army?
 

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650 recovery vehicles for 1500 tanks! Isn't that a tad too much? i mean do we really need a recovery vehicle for every two tanks?
This would also support another 1000+ T-90M tanks also, may be this would also support 3000+ IFV's+ APC [BMP 1 &2]..... and other logistic vehicles like ADV ....... so on.
 

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@ Spiez- an ARV actually serves a different function form the one you ask, An armoured recovery vehicle (ARV) is a type of armoured fighting vehicle used to repair battle- or mine-damaged as well as broken-down armoured vehicles during combat, or to tow them out of the danger zone for more extensive repairs.
Hence my question why 650 for 1500tanks?
 

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This would also support another 1000+ T-90M tanks also, may be this would also support 3000+ IFV's+ APC [BMP 1 &2]..... and other logistic vehicles like ADV ....... so on.
i suspect as much, the numbers would not add up otherwise!
 

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WZT-3 is the ARV used for T-72 chassis by Poland

 

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@bengalraider:I did understand that. My question why not a tank for logistic supplies ????

@bhramos: T-72(43tonnes) much lighter than Arjun(61tonnes), would it be usefull ?
 

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@bengalraider:I did understand that. My question why not a tank for logistic supplies ????

@bhramos: T-72(43tonnes) much lighter than Arjun(61tonnes), would it be usefull ?
well probably because ammunition and fuel is much more cheaply and easily filled up at base by trucks, each time the tanks gain some territory (with roughly half the ammunition and fuel remaining they stop and refill at a makeshift base, while infantry moves in to consolidate the gains.This way armor does not lose contact with the rest of the army while still spearheading any thrust.
 

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Can this ARV be also used for T-90s?? or they need an heavier ARV?.
 

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T-90 weight do not exceed 50 tons, so WZT-3 or other T-72 based ARV's are more than enough. Also there is high commonality between parts in these vehicles.
 

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Wzt-3

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Polish:
WZT-3 [Polska]
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Wóz zabezpieczenia technicznego WZT-3 jest szybkobie¿nym, opancerzonym pojazdem g±sienicowym, przeznaczonym do wykonania szeregu prac na wspó³czesnym polu walki. WZT-3 jest wiêc pojazdem o szerokim zakresie zastosowañ szczególnie efektywny jako ¶rodek towarzysz±cy i zabezpieczaj±cy dzia³ania jednostek pancernych w trudnych warunkach wspó³czesnego pola walki.
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- urz±dzenie do elektrycznego spawania i ciêcia zasilane z w³asnego uk³adu zasilania pojazdu;
- spalinow± pi³ê ³añcuchow± obs³ugiwan± przez jednego cz³onka za³ogi (na specjalne zamówienie);
- zestaw do podnoszenia zespo³ów silnikowego i transmisyjnego;
- urz±dzenie do spawania i ciêcia acetylenem.

Wnêtrze wozu dzieli siê na trzy przedzia³y :
- przedzia³ za³ogi;
- przedzia³ transportowy;
- przedzia³ napêdowy (silnikowo-transmisyjny).
Oprócz ¿urawia, spychacza oraz wyrzutni pocisków zadymiaj±cych, na zewnêtrznych p³ytach kad³uba zamontowano nastêpuj±ce zespo³y:
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- nad przedzia³em napêdowym zamontowane s± pokrywy: nad wyci±gark±, silnikiem i ch³odnicami.

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Na tylnej p³ycie wozu zamocowane jest sztywne urz±dzenie holownicze. Tylne haki holownicze wyposa¿ono w urz±dzenie do zwalniania lin holowniczych. Na lemieszu spychacza ustawionego w po³o¿eniu transportowym zamocowano urz±dzenie do pchania pojazdu g±sienicowego.Dla os³ony p³yt pancernych dolnej czê¶ci kad³uba przed pociskami kumulacyjnymi, wóz wyposa¿any jest w jednolite ekrany boczne. Przedzia³ transportowy mie¶ci siê w ¶rodkowej czê¶ci wozu.
Pod³ogê przedzia³u stanowi± zbiorniki paliwa.
Dostêp do przedzia³u umo¿liwia prostok±tna pokrywa oraz w³az boczny.
Przedzia³ transportowy przeznaczony jest do przewo¿enia wiêkszych zespo³ów niezbêdnych do wykonywania prac remontowych lub przewo¿enia rannych (istnieje mo¿liwo¶æ przewo¿enia 3-ch osób w pozycji le¿±cej na noszach bêd±cych na wyposa¿eniu wozu). Przedzia³ napêdowy usytuowany jest w tylnej czê¶ci kad³uba i od przedzia³u transportowego oddzielony jest szczeln± przegrod±.
W przedziale napêdowym zamontowane s± :
- wyci±garka g³ówna wraz z reduktorem i mechanizmem przeci±¿eniowym;
- podgrzewacz rozruchowy;
- pompa do usuwania wody z kad³uba;
- silnik;
- zbiorniki uk³adu ch³odzenia;
- przek³adnia po¶rednia;
- skrzynie przek³adniowe wraz z przek³adniami bocznymi.
Source: WZT-2 [Polska] - Pancerni.net
 

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I have no idea why you guys could not open the file anyways i'm reattaching it as well as providing the link to BUMAR

http://www.bumar.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/252.pdf


View attachment 252.pdf


Anyways one question comes to mind, IF DRDO is developing an ARV based on the Arjun why not use that to tow the T-72's and T-90's as well, i mean anything that can tow an arjun can practically drag a T-72 around.:p
 

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