The Syrian Crisis

[J.A.]

Operation freedom Iraq episode II I want with Russia compering in Iraq against IS. Not in Syria I wanted.

 

[J.A.]

Mr Barzani also said that he was increasingly convinced that the Turkish objective was not the PKK but Iraqi Kurdistan, which has achieved near-independence since 2003. He said he was convinced Turkey's claim that its target was the PKK "is only an excuse and the target is the Kurdistan region itself". When the KRG put its peshmerga (soldiers) on the border with Turkey to control the areas where the PKK has sought refuge, Turkish artillery had shelled them, he said.

PKK have today around 150.000 soldiers after IS came to homeland in war beginning in north Iraq. For 1 or one and half year back PKK haved 184.000 soldiers ??

Around 30.000 soldiers died in war or whatever.

 

[Bornubus]

No Jihadist wars in Iran.

Hmm No jihadist war in Iran ..... but why ??

Because the population of Iran is Shia if sunni population were even 25 % in Iran the non islamic culture of iran would've been wiped out like roman sites in syria and Bamyan Buddha in Afghanistan ...... present day Tehran would resemble Fallujah.

Moral of the story is shia and sunni can't co exist never was and never will.

Tehran - with no sectarian bullshit

Aleppo syria -with sectarian bullshit

fallujah iRAQ -with sectarian bullshit

 

[J.A.]

No jihadist war in Iran ..... why ??

Tehran
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Aleppo syria

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fallujah iRAQ
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Nice pictures of big capital.

I do not like jihadist in Iran.

 

[Screambowl]

Hmm No jihadist war in Iran ..... but why ??

Because the population of Iran is Shia if sunni population were even 25 % in Iran the non islamic culture of iran would've been wiped out like roman sites in syria and Bamyan Buddha in Afghanistan ...... present day Tehran would resemble Fallujah.

Moral of the story is shia and sunni can't co exist never was and never will.

Tehran - with no sectarian bullshit
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Aleppo syria -with sectarian bullshit

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fallujah iRAQ -with sectarian bullshit
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It will be incomplete job if Russia only targets IS. Unless until Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey are not given any punch by the Russia.

How is it possible that Saudi Arabia , Kuwait and turkey , are not targeted by IS?

 

[Bornubus]

It will be incomplete job if Russia only targets IS. Unless until Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey are not given any punch by the Russia.

How is it possible that Saudi Arabia , Kuwait and turkey , are not targeted by IS?

Turkey may be as they are the legitimate target of russia but why do you think russia will attack KSA however Turkey and Qatar are the main culprit behind ISIS from funding to inciting massacres against kurds whom are much hated by average turk.

 

[J.A.]

Turkey will get off northern Iraq and hell march in Kurdistan. Winning are only one concept to be Kurdistan nation of Turkey. Kurds are 30-40 procent of Turkey willing that new name on Turkey and Kurdistan + land area to new Kurdistan and Turkey lands.

Russia do wrong in Syria. In Iraq I wanted. Iraqi Army needed Russia to fight IS.

 

[Screambowl]

Turkey may be as they are the legitimate target of russia but why do you think russia will attack KSA however Turkey and Qatar are the main culprit behind ISIS from funding to inciting massacres against kurds whom are much hated by average turk.

all those who facilitate these barbarians are main culprits. Because before funding, the money circulates.

one who produces money or grant specifically for a task

one who facilitates the circulation of it.

one who comes up as a fund giver.

And not just Qatar, Kuwait, Turkey but , many would be involved.

 

[pmaitra]

Latest developments in Syria.

Yesterday, around Kwers airbase:

Now, around Kwers airbase:

Aftermath of air-strike on SAA allegedly by US led coalition:

Turkey supported terrorists:

 

[pmaitra]

The west keeps bleating that Assad has killed most Syrians. The truth is, Assad still has the support of majority of Syrians. SAA welcomes in liberated Al-Waer.


Civilians returning to liberated parts of Aleppo:


The west never tires of peddling fairy tales. It is worth noting that a lot of SAA are Sunnis. Assad's in-laws are also Sunnis.


New plan by NATO-Turkey-Saudi?

 

[pmaitra]

The source of this is:

 

[Kshatriya87]

So shiyas are no saint as they claim,several war crimes like beheadings in Syria are being done by shiyas with prior knowledge of Iran.

They are on par with Sunnis in persecution and war crimes in Syria.

And please don't forget Yemen.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Iran are likers of IS ?!

Whatever it is but IS like Iran ??

No Jihadist wars in Iran.

No. IS are sunnis. Iran is a shia country. They hate each other. Iran's security and defence forces are stronger.

 

[pmaitra]

Turkish Sultan Moves to Annex Iraq’s Mosul
Fast developing story. Is Erdogan’s real agenda coming to light? Ottoman Empire anyone?

(Moon of Alabama) | Russia Insider


Erdogan on the move....into Iraq?

Originally appeared at Moon of Alabama

The wannabe Sultan Erdogan did not get his will in Syria where he had planned to capture and annex Aleppo. The Russians prevented that. He now goes for his secondary target, Mosul in Iraq, which many Turks see as historic part of their country:

At the end of World War I in October 1918, after the signature of the Armistice of Mudros, British forces occupied Mosul. After the war, the city and the surrounding area became part of the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (1918-1920), and shortly Mandatory Iraq (1920-1932). This mandate was contested by Turkey which continued to claim the area based on the fact that it was under Ottoman control during the signature of the Armistice. In the Treaty of Lausanne, the dispute over Mosul was left for future resolution by the League of Nations. Iraq’s possession of Mosul was confirmed by the League of Nations brokered agreement between Turkey and Great Britain in 1926. Former Ottoman Mosul Vilayet eventually became Nineveh Province of Iraq, but Mosul remained the provincial capital.​

Mosul, Iraq’s second biggest city with about a million inhabitants, is currently occupied by the Islamic State.

On Friday a column of some 1,200 Turkish soldiers with some 20 tanks and heavy artillery moved into a camp near Mosul. The camp was one of four small training areas where Turkey was training Kurds and some Sunni-Arab Iraqis to fight the Islamic State. The small camps in the northern Kurdish area have been there since the 1990s. They were first established to fight the PKK. Later their Turkish presence was justified as ceasefire monitors after an agreement ended the inner Kurdish war between the KDP forces loyal to the Barzani clan and the PUK forces of the Talabani clan. The bases were actually used to monitor movement of the PKK forces which fight for Kurdish independence in Turkey.

The base near Mosul is new and it was claimed to be just a small weapons training base. But tanks and artillery have a very different quality than some basic AK-47 training. Turkey says it will increase the numbers in these camps to over 2000 soldiers.

Should Mosul be cleared of the Islamic State the Turkish heavy weapons will make it possible for Turkey to claim the city unless the Iraqi government will use all its power to fight that claim. Should the city stay in the hands of the Islamic State Turkey will make a deal with it and act as its protector. It will benefit from the oil around Mosul which will be transferred through north Iraq to Turkey and from there sold on the world markets. In short: This is an effort to seize Iraq’s northern oil fields.

That is the plan but it is a risky one. Turkey did not ask for permission to invade Iraq and did not inform the Iraqi government.

The Turks claim that they were invited by the Kurds:

Turkey will have a permanent military base in the Bashiqa region of Mosul as the Turkish forces in the region training the Peshmerga forces have been reinforced, Hürriyet reported.

The deal regarding the base was signed between Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) President Massoud Barzani and Turkish Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioğlu, during the latter’s visit to northern Iraq on Nov. 4.​

There are two problems with this. First: Massoud Barzani is no longer president of the KRG. His mandate ran out and the parliament refused to prolong it. Second: Mosul and its Bashiqa area are not part of the KRG. Barzani making a deal about it is like him making a deal about Paris.

The Iraqi government and all major Iraqi parties see the Turkish invasion as a hostile act against their country. Abadi demanded the immediate withdrawal of the Turkish forces but it is unlikely that Turkey will act on that. Some Iraqi politicians have called for the immediate dispatch of the Iraqi air force to bomb the Turks near Mosul. That would probably the best solution right now but the U.S. installed Premier Abadi is too timid to go for such strikes. The thinking in Baghdad is that Turkey can be kicked out after the Islamic State is defeated. But this thinking gives Turkey only more reason to keep the Islamic State alive and use it for its own purpose. The cancer should be routed now as it is still small.

Barzani’s Kurdistan is so broke that is has even confiscated foreign bank accounts to pay some bills. That may be the reason why Barzani agreed to the deal now. But the roots run deeper. Barzani is illegally selling oil that belongs to the Iraqi government to Turkey. The Barzani family occupies not only the presidential office in the KRG but also the prime minister position and the local secret services. It is running the oil business and gets a big share of everything else. On the Turkish side the oil deal is handled within the family of President Erdogan. His son in law, now energy minister, had the exclusive right to transport the Kurdish oil through Turkey. Erdogan’s son controls the shipping company that transports the oil over sea to the customer, most often Israel. The oil under the control of the Islamic State in Iraq passes the exactly same route. These are businesses that generate hundreds of millions per year.

It is unlikely that U.S., if it is not behind Turkey’s new escapade, will do anything about it. The best Iraq could do now is to ask the Russians for their active military support. The Turks insisted on their sovereignty when they ambushed a Russian jet that brushed its border but had no intend of harming Turkey. Iraq should likewise insist on its sovereignty, ask Russia for help and immediately kick the Turks out. The longer it waits the bigger the risk that Turkey will eventually own Mosul.

 

[Bornubus]

all those who facilitate these barbarians are main culprits. Because before funding, the money circulates.

one who produces money or grant specifically for a task

one who facilitates the circulation of it.

one who comes up as a fund giver.

And not just Qatar, Kuwait, Turkey but , many would be involved.

Look at Syrian sukhoi shot down,many believed that Russia will retaliate but it didn't do anything with all the might S 400,Su 30 .... Russia will not respond .... IMO instead of military action ..... Kurds should be given superior arms like AA missile against Turkey.

Proxy war against turkey,Qatar and KSA.

 

[pmaitra]

Look at Syrian sukhoi shot down,many believed that Russia will retaliate but it didn't do anything with all the might S 400,Su 30 .... Russia will not respond .... IMO instead of military action ..... Kurds should be given superior arms like AA missile against Turkey.

Proxy war against turkey,Qatar and KSA.

You are correct. Arming the Kurds is a better option. Moreover, Russia wants to win the war, not just a battle. There are times when one has to swallow his pride and keep his cool. From the looks of it, Russia-Syria-Iraq-Iran alliance is making slow but steady progress.

 

[Bornubus]

You are correct. Arming the Kurds is a better option. Moreover, Russia wants to win the war, not just a battle. There are times when one has to swallow his pride and keep his cool. From the looks of it, Russia-Syria-Iraq-Iran alliance is making slow but steady progress.

I agree sir,Iraq will recover in time it has a working govt in most of the part and a unity govt of shia and sunni.

But the loose end is Syria among Russia ,Iraq,iran and Syria ....people will never accept Asad,turkey is the evil country she should pay the price in the form of a separate Kurd state or a proxy war in the heart of istanbul funded by Iran and Russia.

 

[pmaitra]

I agree sir,Iraq will recover in time it has a working govt in most of the part and a unity govt of shia and sunni.

But the loose end is Syria among Russia ,Iraq,iran and Syria ....people will never accept Asad,turkey is the evil country she should pay the price in the form of a separate Kurd state or a proxy war in the heart of istanbul funded by Iran and Russia.

The Kurds are on the South and East of Turkey. I recall someone state that they are about a quarter of Turkey's population. Now, I wonder how united the Kurds are. Barzani seems to have been sold out.

 

[Screambowl]

Look at Syrian sukhoi shot down,many believed that Russia will retaliate but it didn't do anything with all the might S 400,Su 30 .... Russia will not respond .... IMO instead of military action ..... Kurds should be given superior arms like AA missile against Turkey.

Proxy war against turkey,Qatar and KSA.

Russia will not retaliate directly, that's true. Because Turkey is creating distraction on orders , that engage with Russia so that Russia diverts it's attention from Syria. Once Russians do enough in Syria, so that their cost of war and operations are compensated from Oil. They will directly and more forcefully engage with Turkey. Till now, just little poking would do.

 

[Screambowl]

https://www.rt.com/news/325131-syria-bombing-civilians-coalition/
34 Syrian civilians reported killed in suspected US-led coalition airstrikes