Xiaomi beats Samsung to top spot in India’s smartphone market

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  1. rockdog

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    https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/25/xiaomi-samsung-india/

    Xiaomi couldn’t have wished for better timing of two reports that claim it has toppled Samsung to become India’s top-selling smartphone company.

    The Chinese firm, which is reportedly on a roadshow ahead of an IPO that could value it as high as $100 billion, is said to have beaten Samsung’s sales efforts in India, the world’s second-largest smartphone market behind China, according to new data from Canalys and Counterpoint.

    Data from both analyst houses gave Xiaomi a narrow lead over Samsung in the final quarter of 2017, with 27 percent and 25 percent, respectively, according to Canalys — and 25 percent versus 23 percent, according to Counterpoint.

    Counterpoint included year-long figures, which conclude that Samsung (24 percent) is ahead of Xiaomi (19 percent) over the longer timeframe. A glance at the previous year’s figures shows that Xiaomi has closed what was once a significant gap with its rival.

    It’s also striking just how dominant the pair are. Together they account for over half of all smartphones sales in India, which is quite something.

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    Canalys’s Rushabh Doshi explained that Samsung lost ground because Xiaomi was able to exploit its weakness in the sub-INR15,000 (US$240) market with its affordable Redmi series.


    Doshi pointed out, however, that Samsung’s “far superior” R&D and its supply chain expertise give it advantages that will help it compete fiercely with Xiaomi brand, which arguably better marketed in India.

    That takeaway was echoed by Counterpoint Research, which pointed out that the $150-$240 price bracket is the fastest growing segment. Xiaomi, the firm estimates, accounted for some 37 percent of devices in this range that shipped to India.

    With Xiaomi ramping up its offline sales in India, this is one battle to watch in 2018.

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  3. G10

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    This is the reason why india can never beat china. People of india will sell off everything for a good bargain. Slowly indian economy would be taken over by chinese.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Chinese sell things at cost or at least close to it. That is not a sustainable growth model.
     
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    Totally agreed but I think it is true for all the South Asian nationalities. They will even throw away their very race just for a good bargain.,eg. Indian Muslims will say they are not Indian just to be classified as Malays. Bangladeshis will throw their passports away and claim they are Myanmar Rohingyans just so they don't have to apply work permits. They will even throw away their dignity, a few Indian friends of mine pretended they are mentally retarded just to avoid paying income tax! They even joked about it and think that they are being "smart". Yes, that's it..they like to think "smart" at the expense of other law abiding citizens.And the country going to be a shithole is not their problem,..."very smart" indeed. Indians will declare undying total support for a person and make a 180 degrees turn when they are offered a bargain by another. However, it's a South Asian phenomena, not just Indian.
     

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    American companies use to do the same too in the 1950's. American companies make paper thin profit margins back then, and America prospered. However, companies got greedy and start demanding bigger and bigger profit margins, and started to outsource to sustain that very profit margin. The rest is history.
     
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    Time is changing, at least in Internet & mobile industry, US and Chinese are so far two successful models. From what i have seen, the India market is more suitable for the Chinese model because of economic development stage.

    I'd like to find some good players from Europe, but hardly no big players from Internet and mobile industry.

    My firm did some contracts from Alcatel Mobile, it uses the same strategy doing business in mid east and Africa... Don't blame the Chinese TCL please, the employees are still mostly Europeans...
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Korean, Japanese and US companies started that way but they built a service network. Chinese brands cut corners and don't offer good after sales support.
     
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    Xiaomi provides phones that are almost same quality as Samsung for nearly half or 2/3 the price. No wonder they are beating Samsung.
     
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    xiaomi's phones are cost effective, but that doesn't mean xiaomi doesn't make money. Samsung and Apple phones are expensive because they sell their phones at prices that are unreasonably high above the costs.
     
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    No point blaming Indian people. This is what globalization is. If any Indian company can provide a better product to cost ratio compared to China, why wouldn't people buy Indian maal?

    Indian companies need more innovation and subsidies from the government.
     
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    Exactly, if Xiaomi would tops in China & India, which means the models is running on 3 billion of 7 for years... i don't know the definition of "sustainable growth" now...
     
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    I had a Mi4c that suffered light bleed, couldn't support more than two touch points and a battery that swole up in less than a year.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Hugo revealed in 2016 that they lose money on hardware sales. They only turn a profit from online services that are only profitable in China. Expanding into foreign markets that don't want Chinese content is putting them at a loss. Adding brick and mortar stores at break neck speed will add to the overhead they never dealt with before and patent wars as they expand into Samsung and Apple territory.
     
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    Yeah we will help China grow and what to do there is no other option.
     
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    Hugo said that xiaomi didn't make money on hardware sales, nothing about losing money, that is different. there will be one way or another for xiaomi to make profit as long as it sells that many phones.

    Samsung and Apple don't hold patents that will threaten xiaomi. By procuring Qualcomm chips, xiaomi basically excludes itself from this kind of trouble.
     
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    Xiaomi deletes Twitter poll after users choose Android One over MIUI

    Last week, Xiaomi ran a Twitter poll asking people to choose between MIUI 9 and Android One. As you may know, MIUI is the ROM that majority of the Xiaomi phones ship with while Android One comes directly from Google and is what you find on the Mi A1.

    It seems Xiaomi expected a landslide victory for its own MIUI over Android One, but the good people of Twitter had other thoughts. At last known count, Android One was leading by 57%, with the remaining 43% going to MIUI 9.

    And then it happened. Xiaomi deleted the tweet.

    But nothing is ever truly lost on the Internet and predictably there were many screenshots of it taken, one of which you see below.

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    And they will Re-invest this money back into our country through the Left wing terror groups and support paki jihadis to screw our own happiness ..We indians are the top class when it comes to screwing their own happiness helping an enemy ..
     
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    Xiaomi India is profitable at Fiscal Year of 2017, with USD 25 million, sale of USD1.3 billion, after the sale volume increased 696%.
    https://www.ithome.com/html/it/337603.htm

    @Armand2REP please don't say it cooks book again... they are preparing the IPO in HK, all the lots of audit companies are watching...
     
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    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    i used to use xiaomi2 and xiaomi3,now i use huawei.

    my wife used Samsung,now uses huawei too.

    we change smart phones every 1-1.5 years.

    4-5 years ago,samsung were popular,but now it seems to almost have vanished,maybe because its system sucks.
     
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    Unless other smartphone makers don't adopt xiomi practice, it'll be no.1 seller. India isn't a high end market. India buys cost effective phones that has different features. I don't fall for xiomi gimicks, I like the stock android yoo much. But the prices at which xiomi seller is always tempting. Of course those who can afford don't go for such phones.
     
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    Xiomi also sell their phones with bold MADE IN INDIA tags.
     
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