Why is Kashmir issue unresolved yet with Pakistan?

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Ha Ha Ha ... very naive question

There is no end to Paki hallucinations ...

Instrument of accession was to be rendered to the English Vice- Roy and copy of that is with government of India...

Pakistan has no right to ask for it.
Ask Lord Mountbatten ...
Why ask India
So does Indian government had any real strategy to put an end to Pakistan's demand.

India keeps saying that talks will happen when ceasefire violations stop and they stop talking with Kashmiri separatists but Pakistan is unlikely to stop which means it will probably just continue like this and one loses its calm to begin another war.

Unless India has some plans to prevent further damage to our nation.
 

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Question trying to understand if Indias current strategy will ever solve the issue and if it will, then when. Whether with or without another war and destruction.

When India is capable of making its point on International stage, why does it not go there? For how long is this gonna be like this?
Since both the countries are nuclear powers another full fledged war is a remote chance, unless Chinese and Pakistanis conspire together.

Yes India is capable of making a point on international stage , But India sees this issue as a bilateral one so India will not try to internationalize this.

India welcomes talks in peaceful environment with Pakistan to resolve this issue.
 

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Okay, a stupid question but Do you think India can claim Pakistan as well since it is also a part of Indus civilization?

Islam was an outlandish civilization so seeking division by religion would give an upper hand to India?

How could Muslim leaders ask a specific muslim state in Hindu lands?

It is British who helped dividing Indian land and India doesn't necessarily have to accept it same way.

Shouldn't the muslims who ask their state in sub continent be sent back to where they come from?

In my opinion Only sub continental faiths and community has right to talk of separate state since they have originated and stayed here forever. Islam or muslims don't.

Do you think India will have stronger claim this way and can India say this or is it unreasonable?
 

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Pakistan by its very nature of being the "other state" cannot stop opposing India, whether there is Kashmir or no Kashmir. Without opposing India there is no existence for Pakistan. So India cannot resolve Kashmir issue. India needs to strengthen defences and wait until Pakistan implodes... which is a process already on.

So does Indian government had any real strategy to put an end to Pakistan's demand.

India keeps saying that talks will happen when ceasefire violations stop and they stop talking with Kashmiri separatists but Pakistan is unlikely to stop which means it will probably just continue like this and one loses its calm to begin another war.

Unless India has some plans to prevent further damage to our nation.
 

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So does Indian government had any real strategy to put an end to Pakistan's demand.

India keeps saying that talks will happen when ceasefire violations stop and they stop talking with Kashmiri separatists but Pakistan is unlikely to stop which means it will probably just continue like this and one loses its calm to begin another war.

Unless India has some plans to prevent further damage to our nation.
Raking up Kashmir and grooming Jihadists is a policy of Pakistanis which they will not deviate no matter what.

India and Pakistan came very close to agreement in the past but some external forces and the Pakistani Military which wants backing from the bigger powers against India shot the proposals.

De Hyphenating Pakistan with India is not desirable at all for them. One of the reason they act as spoilers for India all these years. Kashmir helps them in this regard.

Even if we Imagine that India and Pakistan have no issue like Kashmir, still these guys find some issue to do Jihad.
 

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Okay, a stupid question but Do you think India can claim Pakistan as well since it is also a part of Indus civilization?

Islam was an outlandish civilization so seeking division by religion would give an upper hand to India?

How could Muslim leaders ask a specific muslim state in Hindu lands?

It is British who helped dividing Indian land and India doesn't necessarily have to accept it same way.

Shouldn't the muslims who ask their state in sub continent be sent back to where they come from?

In my opinion Only sub continental faiths and community has right to talk of separate state since they have originated and stayed here forever. Islam or muslims don't.

Do you think India will have stronger claim this way and can India say this or is it unreasonable?
The idea of Islamic state is based on two nations theory that muslims cannot live with Hindus.

This will do more harm to India, Partition happened.

But even at the time of partition leaders of both the countries wished that both India and Pakistan should be like brothers and civilian relations should be maintained.

But it is the nature of Islamic Fundamentalists who do not want peaceful Hindu dominated country, since India was under Mughal muslim rule. This is the main reason for wars and terrorist attacks.
 

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The idea of Islamic state is based on two nations theory that muslims cannot live with Hindus.

This will do more harm to India, Partition happened.

But even at the time of partition leaders of both the countries wished that both India and Pakistan should be like brothers and civilian relations should be maintained.
I am not asking them to live with Indians or hindus if they don't want to but if they say they deserve/deserved any part of subcontinent they claim, India can ask them to leave using their own logics of Islam. It will be equal standard for both.

I am not asking India to take back Pakistan but if they ask any land on religious ground, India can show them that their rational only weakens their demand.
We can say live in harmony or leave.

What will they possibly have to argue? Would it make a bad impression or will it give them something more to accuse us.
 

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If you think that you can talk logic with militant Islam, you sir are seriously in need of a psychologist
 

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If you think that you can talk logic with militant Islam, you sir are seriously in need of a psychologist
Ha ha:cool2: Alright they may not be able to comprehend. I was just wondering what would be their reaction and how the rest of the world will react.
 

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Question trying to understand if Indias current strategy will ever solve the issue and if it will, then when. Whether with or without another war and destruction.

When India is capable of making its point on International stage, why does it not go there? For how long is this gonna be like this?
Read it a little seriously -

OK, who went to the UN? Was it India or Pakistan ? so your assertion that India is afraid of going to UN is not valid !
What does going to Un laterally means - it means solving a problem diplomatically. Is not it ?
After that There was a cease fire agreement between the two countries. - it was not brokered by the UN .
Then there was Tashkent Agreement .

Then there was Shimla agreement between the two countries.
Then there is Indus Water agreement between the two countries ... so on and so fourth.

Bilateral mechanism is also an agreed diplomatic means and fully recognised as per international laws.

Why does not Pakistan honour those agreement ?
What is the guarantee that if India wins referendum Pakistan would cease in meddling in J&K affairs ? Punjab was not disputed still Pakistan meddled with that. North East is not disputed still Pakistan is meddling there. And many other places ...

Secondly, why did Pakistan not follow the conditions of Un resolution ?

Thirdly, who will agree with a 65 years resolutions when ground conditions have deliberately been altered in J&K by Pakistan by :-
* Changing entire demography of POK
* By forcible capture of Northern Areas
* By ethnic cleansing of Valley.
* By using her Army to forcibly annex J&K in 1965, 1971 and 1999 ? Where was UN then?

Pakistan's obsession or rather strategy of third Party mediation is driven by its inferiority complex, perceived might of India, a desire not to talk to Hindus ( who were their slaves) and get over very difficult situations they land up in. Whether it was 1965, 1971, Kargil, water issue or Cricket issue, Parakram or any issue, Pakistan always want a third Party to intervene to overcome the dilemma that Indians have forced an issue on Pakistan. No leader of Pakistan can ever go back and face its people if he agrees to any thing bilaterally. If it is due to third party the leader can always blame third party - like in the aftermath of Kargil.

In its dealing with India, Pakistani politicians, bureaucrats, Army or diplomats are not capable of talking to India in spite of great favours given by Indians to Pakistan in the aftermaths of all the conflict during all negations and treatise. It does not go down their ego filled throats and minds. They would surrender to China all their land but not to evil Yindoo baniyas. That is their problem..... That is the baggage all Pakistanis carry...

So the time of Un mediation on Kashmir is long over and lots of water have flown down the Sindh to fall back to 1948. Pakistan would like the subcontinent to fall back to the Mogul period but that is not possible. Indian would like India to fall back to the time of Chandragupta but that is also not possible today...

UN intervention therefore, is unrealistic and unproductive. Pakistan having fought four war and long drawn proxy war can not ask for third Party Mediation or UN intervention . Pakistan has been following a constant war in J&K militarily and by using terrorists. India has faced that and shall win in that war. Pakistan is trying to follow multi pronged approach but can never succeed.

Pakistan would be lucky if they manage to keep what was left over in 1971 rather than aspiring to gain something out of India.
 

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I am not asking them to live with Indians or hindus if they don't want to but if they say they deserve/deserved any part of subcontinent they claim, India can ask them to leave using their own logics of Islam. It will be equal standard for both.

I am not asking India to take back Pakistan but if they ask any land on religious ground, India can show them that their rational only weakens their demand.
We can say live in harmony or leave.

What will they possibly have to argue? Would it make a bad impression or will it give them something more to accuse us
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The result will be Violent Jihad and terror attacks !!

India as a democratic country will not do what fascist or dictatorial regimes do, there are democratic things which will help in nation building based on Constitution of India, instead of asking people to leave from that area.
 

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I am not asking them to live with Indians or hindus if they don't want to but if they say they deserve/deserved any part of subcontinent they claim, India can ask them to leave using their own logics of Islam. It will be equal standard for both.

I am not asking India to take back Pakistan but if they ask any land on religious ground, India can show them that their rational only weakens their demand.
We can say live in harmony or leave.

What will they possibly have to argue? Would it make a bad impression or will it give them something more to accuse us.
What paper do they have to show to state the authenticity of the part of the territory they hold? Do they have any instrument of accession signed by Lord Mountbatten or confirming to any British India act?
 

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I am not asking India to take back Pakistan but if they ask any land on religious ground, India can show them that their rational only weakens their demand.
We can say live in harmony or leave.

What will they possibly have to argue? Would it make a bad impression or will it give them something more to accuse us.
Their current official pak rhetoric on india is not based on religion, their current stand is that people of Kashmir should have the right to choose between india and pak. Religion is a tool to deliver the message. If you notice dispute was purely territorial prior to Simla agreement, religion did not come into the picture till after pak involvement in Afghanistan. Kashmir was heaven on earth till early 90's. It's only after they implemented lessons learnt from Afghanistan it was given a religious colour.

There is a whole generation of Zia era fanatics still alive in pak, solution of kashmir problem is not in the hands of india. India can at best maintain status quo.

One more point. There is a concept in pak that they are located geographically strategic location. This was formed during the peak of Cold War, many things have happened since then and this concept has no relevance any more. Once Russia-China oil pipeline is finished whatever Pakistan's relevance on world stage is , will become negligible. India will have to wait it out till this event happens. Pakistan's willingness to sustain Kashmir dispute is directly related to this assumption of being located in the strategically geographic location. This gives them the confidence that major powers of U.S or China will come to their defence if things go bad.

My guess is there will be a major push from pak before this event happens, we will see a frequent change in tactics from their side in this decade.

Only thing that is not in india's favour right now is the China's modern silk route vision, because of Chabahar port which goes thru pak. Then again it depends on how much of China's trade goes thru this port.
 
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Where is the instrument of accession for Baluchistan ? Kalat etc ??
Where is instrument of accession for FATA, Tribal areas ?
Where is instrument of accession for NWFP ?

There was an instrument of accession for Junagrah but the Mogul from there ran way with his plundered wealth.

There is a requirement of referendum in NWFP, Baluchistan, Tribal areas, Waziristan ... frankly...
 

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Where is the instrument of accession for Baluchistan ? Kalat etc ??
Where is instrument of accession for FATA, Tribal areas ?
Where is instrument of accession for NWFP?
Both FATA and NWFP are semi autonomous regions, deals were made with local jirga's they will have a major say in what happens these regions. Pak constitution does not necessarily apply there in full effect.

Baluchistan did not fall In this category because local tribal elders were not in favour of pak.
 

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WHY ? Many reasons...(1) psychological reason: Paki suffers from Inferiority complex as it could not sustain democracy, is not respected even 1/4th compared to India in developed countries.
I need to correct that. 1/4th, well not even a 10th of 1/4th actually, and thats how the fact is, not rhetorical at all. Each time they get talked about globally, its has to be in some reference to terrorism, nothing productive contribution to the world, other than a Malala who is supposed to be western conspiracy hatched against them. India is leagues ahead, no comparison at all. People are so keen to talk about the Indian economy, and with the Modi government, there is this renewed enthusiasm about the economy. India is back for all the right reasons.
 

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Read it a little seriously -

OK, who went to the UN? Was it India or Pakistan ? so your assertion that India is afraid of going to UN is not valid !
What does going to Un laterally means - ........................
Pakistan would be lucky if they manage to keep what was left over in 1971 rather than aspiring to gain something out of India.
That's a great insight you have given. I never meant India is afraid, was interested in a reasonable explaination of India not taking third party's help and you have given a pretty reasonable and serious answer. Thank you. This problem might take some time to move on.
 

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There is no instrument of accession signed by HYDERABAD NIZAM

There is no instrument of accession signed by Portugese in Goa

We(Indians) believe they are our territories and we reclaim it (some one called it occupation)

as far as Kashmir "Kashmir is resolved in 1948 when Indian Army landed and fk the Paki forces out of Kashmir and redraw border" ............. I think Nehru may be applied divide&Rule policy

Kashmiri&paki Muslims like all other Muslims, wherever they have Majority they create Insurgency and lawlessness IA crushed it :pound:

2)Your Q may be "Is Kashmir issue unresolved with Paki Army" and why

India occupied/reclaimed Junagarh&Hyd b'coz they are Hindu majority with Musim kings.Obviously Pakistan also say same reason

Their rivers originated in Kashmir
Since their rivers originate from Kashmir, they have every right to wage Jihad on ordinary citizens of India. Nice reason :lol:

As I said earlier, Princely states are different, their princess are told to merge with either India or Pakistan.

After Police action Nizam agreed to join Indian Union , European portugese are legitimate rulers of Goa :lol:

What reasoning ?? :lol:
 

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There is no instrument of accession signed by HYDERABAD NIZAM

There is no instrument of accession signed by Portugese in Goa

We(Indians) believe they are our territories and we reclaim it (some one called it occupation)

as far as Kashmir "Kashmir is resolved in 1948 when Indian Army landed and fk the Paki forces out of Kashmir and redraw border" ............. I think Nehru may be applied divide&Rule policy

Kashmiri&paki Muslims like all other Muslims, wherever they have Majority they create Insurgency and lawlessness IA crushed it :pound:

2)Your Q may be "Is Kashmir issue unresolved with Paki Army" and why

India occupied/reclaimed Junagarh&Hyd b'coz they are Hindu majority with Musim kings.Obviously Pakistan also say same reason

Their rivers originated in Kashmir
Since their rivers originate from Kashmir, they have every right to wage Jihad on ordinary citizens of India. Nice reason :lol:

As I said earlier, Princely states are different, their princess are told to merge with either India or Pakistan.

After Police action Nizam agreed to join Indian Union , European portugese are legitimate rulers of Goa :lol:

What reasoning ?? :lol:
 

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If it were so, then how come the IA operated out there and the Maharaja did not raise a hue and cry.

But curiosity gets me.

What prompts you to feel it is fraudulent?

we have something in detail in this regard as below. an Indian stand but this is what we know since schooling :ranger:

Jammu & Kashmir: Spineless India, Cunning Pakistan, Toothless UN

Despite of three all out wars between India and Pakistan only one in 1947 was fought by India to regain its own territory illegally occupied by invader Pakistan. On October 22, 1947 Pakistani army disguised as tribals and branded as Mujjahiddins invaded Jammu & Kashmir then an independent princely state ruled by Maharaja Hari Singh. The ruler of Kashmir, who on October 26, 1947 using the provisions of Indian Independence Act 1947 passed by the British Parliament merged his state with India. By virtue of the signed Instrument of Accession, the former princely state of Jammu and Kashmir like other more than 500 princely states of pre-partition India became integral part of India. Thereafter Indian army initiated military actions to push out disguised Pakistani army out of own territories in Jammu & Kashmir but before regaining entire territories illegally occupied by Pakistan J. M. Nehru the then Indian prime minister unilaterally declared ceasefire on January 1,1948. :facepalm:

Just one day before unilaterally declaring cease-fire, the Indian Prime Minister J. M. Nehru declared to conduct plebiscite in Jammu & Kashmir. J. M. Nehru's offer of Plebiscite in UN on December 31, 1947 itself was unauthorized and illegal.:ranger: First of all Nehru had no right or powers to offer plebiscite in Jammu & Kashmir in UN or anywhere else due to signing and acceptance of Instrument of Accession on October 26, 1947 as the Jammu & Kashmir had become integral part of India. If at all, any one had the right or power to declare plebiscite or cede any territory to any other country in any part of India it was Indian Parliament and that was under process of coming into existence. The Constituent Assembly, which was in existence at that time was constituted with only objects to bring the Indian constitution and parliament into existence and had no powers or rights to take any decision to conduct plebiscite or cede any territory of India to any other country. :ranger:

Moreover, Nehru's offer of Plebiscite made within 70 days of the merger of Jammu & Kashmir into India was against the intention and spirit of the Instrument of Accession signed by the Maharaja Hari Singh former ruler of princely state Jammu & Kashmir. As per the powers conferred by the Indian Independence Act 1947 passed by the British Parliament the ruler Hari Singh merged his state with India to make it an integral part of India and not to offer his state to conduct plebiscite by India.:india: If at all the ruler Hari Singh of Jammu & Kashmir wished to do so, he could have done it himself why he needed India or Nehru to offer plebiscite in his state?

However, in any case, Pakistan has no right of any kind even on one-inch territory of Jammu & Kashmir including the illegally occupied territories since 1947 as it is an integral part of India. If Pakistan claims Kashmir just because there are more Muslims in Kashmir then why India should not claim entire Pakistan as there are more Muslims in India than in the entire Pakistan?

Nehru's unilateral, suicidal, irresponsible, unauthorized, illegal and treacherous offer of plebiscite in own territories shocked Indians and surprised Pakistan as Pakistan never expected something of that kind will be gifted by Indian prime minister. Moreover, even Pakistan had never uttered a word plebiscite in Kashmir before Nehru committed that historic blunder.

The whole idea of invasion of Jammu & Kashmir was a brainchild of Pakistani army and was conceived in a month of September 1947, immediately after creation of Pakistan on August 14, 1947. Before partition, Mohammad Ali Jinnah never thought of inclusion of not only Jammu & Kashmir but also any particular territory into Pakistan. What Jinnah wanted was an independent nation exclusively for Muslims no matter how small, size was not important for him but creation of one separate and independent nation was. Otherwise, in first place Jinnah known for his adamant nature would not have agreed to the "Mountbatten Plan" itself, as that was supposed to be the basis of Indian Independence Act 1947, later passed by the British Parliament. The results of plebiscite in Baluchistan and voting in Sindh Assembly to decide merger with either India or Pakistan could go in anybody's favor. Moreover, instead of playing that gamble of plebiscite, the clever and adamant Jinnah would have insisted on straightway creation of Pakistan by inclusion of the territories he wanted to be parts of Pakistan in same way, as he forced the Indian National Congress agree to his demand of partition of India.

Nehru's free run of committing blunder after blunders of Jammu & Kashmir continued for years, as the national territories were his own private property, surprisingly without any resistance from the Congressmen. Nehru did not stop with the blunders of announcing ceasefire and plebiscite but committed another blunder by inclusion of discriminatory Section 370 into Indian Constitution giving special status to the state of Jammu & Kashmir.

There were more than 500 princely states in pre-partition India and the state of Jammu & Kashmir was one of them. The state of Jammu & Kashmir merged with India just like all other states merged in accordance with the provisions of Indian Independence Act 1947. The special status under the Section 370 of the Indian Constitution was not granted to all other more than 500 former princely states and was offered only the state of Jammu & Kashmir in clear violation of natural and equal justice to all. That means the Section 370 itself was discriminatory. Only thing nobody did challenge the validity of inclusion of that discriminatory Section 370 into Indian Constitution in the court of law.

The successive Indian Congress led governments in India have committed multiple blunders by messing up the one point simple issue of regaining invaded and illegally occupied own territories kicking Pakistan out at any costs. Moreover, the cunning Pakistanis always stole the Indian army sacrifices and victories of war in post-war treaties with Indians. Even in the propaganda and diplomatic moves, the Pakistanis are hundred of years ahead of India. Despite of being invader and illegal occupier of Indian territories, Pakistan bullies India at will and Indians being the legal owners of the territories illegally occupied by Pakistan ridiculously behave as if they are in illegal occupation of the Jammu & Kashmir.

The return of regained own territories of the state of Jammu & Kashmir back to the invader and illegal occupier Pakistan after 1971 India-Pakistan war shows how much India loves its own territories and how much is serious in regaining entire territories illegally occupied by Pakistan. Moreover, Indian diplomacy (?) could not understand that the return of own regained territories back to the invader Pakistan would give legitimacy to the Pakistani illegal occupation of Indian territories. Despite of victor, the entire handling of post-war situation, more than diplomatic disaster was greatest blunder in the series of blunders committed since 1947 by Indian governments led by the Congress party. May be India was the only country in the world to do such national suicide.

After losing the greatest opportunity to resolve the Kashmir issue once for all by forcing defeated Pakistan to totally withdraw from the illegally occupied Indian territories of Jammu & Kashmir after end of 1971 war, today India is left with very few options.

First India needs to shed defensive, elusive, spiritless and spineless behavior and stop selling of Jammu & Kashmir to Pakistan in the name of autonomy in exchange for halt in terror attacks emanating from Pakistan. The purpose of using terror therapy itself is to make India agree to the terms of Pakistan that means swallowing remaining Indian territories of Jammu & Kashmir in collusion with some anti-Indians on Pakistani payroll.

Second, enough is enough India should at least have some fire and spirit to regain its own territories, not by shying away from the international scene fearing the 'K' word but boldly presenting the realities of legal and completed accession of Jammu & Kashmir into India in October 1947.

Further, India must admit the blunders committed by the J. M. Nehru the then prime minster of India by declaring unilateral cease fire before completely regaining own territories illegally occupied by Pakistan and Nehru's irresponsible, unauthorized and illegal act in UN that offered to conduct plebiscite in own territories of Jammu & Kashmir. The blunder committed by Nehru has made Indian successive generations pay by hundreds of thousands of innocent human lives, billions of dollars in expenditures apart from making generations of hundreds of thousands of Indian Kashmiri Pandits refugees in their own motherland in last sixty years by the treacherous act of one man and sycophantic silence of many.

Pakistanis really have tremendous spirit and fire despite of being the invaders and illegal occupiers of Indian territories of Jammu & Kashmir. In contrast, not a single Indian leader in successive Indian ruling set-ups had even fraction of that spirit and fire the Pakistanis have, otherwise, India would have regained the entire territories illegally occupied by Pakistan long back.

Still it's not impossible only thing needed is one or few leaders in Indian ruling set-up who has got real fire and national spirit and keeps themselves on fire until Pakistan is kicked out of illegally occupied Indian territories rising above petty politics of getting power and remain stuck to power at any cost . However, the big question is whether India has such dynamic leader who can rise above petty politics in interest of nation. When Pakistan has engaged itself full time since 1947 on single agenda of swallowing remaining territories of Indian state of Jammu & Kashmir, Indians except licking the wounds of terror emanating from Pakistan and occasional ceremonial announcements of Jammu & Kashmir is integral part of India have done nothing to regain own territories illegally occupied by Pakistan. Today Pakistan due to its complicity in terror is at the lowest standing in International scene with total loss of credibility. Moreover, more than 30% of the Pakistani army is already inside Afghanistan and 40% in own tribal region adjoining Afghanistan in the guise of non-existing ghost Taliban and another 10-15% will move in next few months time and remain in western Pakistan for long time.

What Indians needs is a courage for bold moves shedding aside the spineless and spiritless diplomacy and lusty domestic power politics and bring forth the reality of completed legal accession of Jammu & Kashmir into India on October 26, 1947 before world, in loud, clear, positive and confident voice and correct the blunders of Jammu & Kashmir once for all by regaining own territories back.

The threat of Pakistani nuclear weapons is non-existent; the tiny geographical size of Pakistan makes the entire nuclear arsenal useless and suicidal for Pakistan, if used against India. Any simultaneous Pakistani nuclear aggression even on all top ten cities of India will not destroy the Indian ability to retaliate in same way, and in such case, "the tiny Pakistan will be wipe out from the world map". The intelligent ISI that is nuclear command and real center of power of Pakistan will never ever dare to convert whole Pakistan into ashes. The tricks of moving some of the nuclear weapons towards India in the times of tension were only to bring world pressure on India to cool relations with Pakistan fearing nuclear flash between two countries. Therefore, ISI should remain concentrated on its mission of realization of Federation of Islamic Republics by invading other countries using disguised Pakistani regular army as non-existent ghost Taliban.

The Pakistani nuclear program boosted not to maintain any balance with India but first for successful creation of master of ISI's dream of Federation of Islamic Republics and thereafter to thwart every US military action against Federation of Islamic Republics to dislodge Pakistani army as Taliban. The Pakistani nuclear program including acquisition of nuclear capable ready-to-use No-Dong missiles from North Korea in exchange for nuclear technology began when ISI decided to go ahead with the idea of Federation of Islamic Republics by Pakistani army under the guise of non-existing ghost Taliban in 1994.

The astonishing speed Pakistani pile-up of longer and longer-range nuclear capable ready-to-use Korean missiles is to counter US threats forever and not India on Kashmir issue. Moreover, for ISI Kashmir is very a paltry territory in comparison with Federation of Islamic Republics that is suppose to include parts of Central, entire Middle East and West Asia. ISI knows US will never go beyond certain limit against nuclear states and unless long-range nuclear capable missiles with nuclear war heads are stocked in large scale, ISI cannot bring the powerful US on equal terms like former USSR. In the cold war era, US at all costs avoided direct military conflict with former USSR fearing nuclear backlash. Once the rapidly ongoing re-invasion of Afghanistan by Pakistani army in the guise of Taliban is completed, it will take hardly year or two Pakistan to invade one or two poor defenseless countries of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan or Kyrgyzstan under the guise of Taliban. What ISI plans are is somehow declare its non-existing ghosts Taliban and Al-Qaeda having hold on entire nuclear stock pile of Pakistan as that game plan will force all Islamic countries to surrender to the Taliban's Federation of Islamic Republics and also thwart every US military action against the ISI's Grand National Conspiracy.

The United Nations inaction in forcing Pakistan to withdraw from the illegally occupied Indian territories even after of lapse of sixty years despite of its own resolution passed on August 13, 1948 has only proved how weak the UN is. UN that blamed Pakistan for invasion and ordered Pakistan to withdraw from the illegal occupation Indian territories, in fact did nothing to force Pakistan to vacate Indian territories. The UN inactions have proved UN is toothless organization and could be bullied by any country that is rogue. The UN failure to enforce its own resolution allowed Pakistan to continue its illegal occupation of Indian territories continuously for last sixty years and has emboldened Pakistan to invade Afghanistan under guise of non-existing ghost Taliban, in the same manner as it did in Jammu & Kashmir in October 1947. The drastic UN failure has given an impression to Pakistan that not only it can invade any country under guise of non-existing ghosts but also can retain occupation for decades or may be forever despite of UN resolutions. As far as UN resolutions are concerned, they are nothing but bullshit for Pakistan.

Any territorial trade off by India in Jammu & Kashmir for peace with Pakistan too is not possible for any party government India. On December 31, 1947, the then Indian prime minster J. M. Nehru who was leading the Constituent Assembly had made an offer of plebiscite in Jammu & Kashmir in UN. That offer was in absence of Indian Constitution and Parliament as both were under process of coming into existence. In 1994, for the first time Indian Parliament has unanimously passed resolution declaring entire Jammu & Kashmir that includes the territories illegally occupied by Pakistan and China as an integral part of India. That particular resolution has overruled and nullified the previous offers of plebiscite and ceasefire in entire Jammu & Kashmir made by the then prime minster of India J. M. Nehru in UN. Now no government of India under president's rule or led by any party can trade off even one inch of Indian territory including illegally held by Pakistan or China in exchange to buy peace or to halt terror emanating from Pakistan. If Indian government wants to do so, the Indian parliament needs to pass unanimous resolution allowing ceding of Indian territories to Pakistan as the Jammu & Kashmir is an integral part of India and unless Indian parliament passes such unanimous resolution, allowing ceding of nation's territories to Pakistan any territorial trade off by Indian political parties shall be unconstitutional, therefore illegal.

Had India or UN kicked invader Pakistan out of illegally occupied Indian territories of Jammu & Kashmir immediately after invasion on October 22 1947 or before mid 1990s Pakistan would not have dared again to use the same modus operandi used to invade Kashmir in 19947 to invade Afghanistan in 1990s and now once again in 2007-08. Even the 1998 simultaneous terror attacks on US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the 9/11 in US, 7/7 in UK and hundreds of terror attacks in India, Afghanistan and elsewhere that ended hundreds of thousands of valuable innocent human lives and billions of dollars in expenditures would not have taken place at all.

However, Pakistan needs to be forced to vacate illegal occupation of Indian territories held since 1947. As that will make every present and future rogue Pakistani elements realize that the world shall not allow it to invade and continue illegal occupation of even one inch territory of other countries. Unless that happens, the Pakistani army's missions of invading other countries in one or other guise shall never halt and there will be more Jammu & Kashmirs beyond Afghanistan. Once the ongoing process of re-invasion of Afghanistan is over in few months in the guise of non-existing ghost Taliban, nobody can stop the deadly ISI from invading Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, and almost all countries of Middle East, West Asia and North Africa under the guise of non-existing ghost Taliban in next few years of time.

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