Why do Chinese students outperform Indians?

[SPIEZ]

GATE is less competitive than IIT-JEE because more people vie for the Bachelor's Degree than Master's Degree. That is what makes it more competitive.

True, very true, the curriculum also deals with basic knowledge instead of the overtly high one in the JEE

However, I have a hard time believing the knowledge gained in the Master's is inferior to that in Bachelor's.

Any thing is possible in India!

 

[cir]

Exercise problem for elementary school 4th grades（10-year olds）in China：

There is a pack of playing cards with 54 cards， from which two people draw several cards alternately， min 1 card and max 4 cards at a time allowed.

He who draws the last card loses.

Question: He who draws first must start with how many cards and follow what methodology to ensure victory？

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Exercise problem for elementary school 4th grades（10-year olds）in China：

There is a pack of playing cards with 54 cards， from which two people draw several cards alternately， min 1 card and max 4 cards at a time allowed.

He who draws the last card loses.

Question: He who draws first must start with how many cards and follow what methodology to ensure victory？

Good idea...We appreciate anything good but not your shit CCP bullying peaceful nation like India.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Exercise problem for elementary school 4th grades（10-year olds）in China：

There is a pack of playing cards with 54 cards， from which two people draw several cards alternately， min 1 card and max 4 cards at a time allowed.

He who draws the last card loses.

Question: He who draws first must start with how many cards and follow what methodology to ensure victory？

You are supposed to pull the Jokers out before playing any card game!

Teach those kids a useful skill ... like Poker or Blackjack. :-D

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Common mate...! fish eating is not gonna make difference.

Even north students has very decent number in IITs & probably highest in IAS. It's all about study environment & strong basic eductaion.

Ya look at the Bengalis.!

 

[Godless-Kafir]

You are supposed to pull the Jokers out before playing any card game!

Teach those kids a useful skill ... like Poker or Blackjack. :-D

Thats how they spend most of the time in PLA!

 

[cir]

Indians find it hard to accept facts.

Good!

 

[LurkerBaba]

"By Arindam Chaudhuri",

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[Dovah]

Arindham Chaudhri is an idiot. o_o.

 

[Armand2REP]

The Chicoms at my school didn't even use the textbooks. They bought Chinese textbooks because it was too hard for them to understand the ones in English. They didn't participate in discussion either.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Exercise problem for elementary school 4th grades（10-year olds）in China：

There is a pack of playing cards with 54 cards， from which two people draw several cards alternately， min 1 card and max 4 cards at a time allowed.

He who draws the last card loses.

Question: He who draws first must start with how many cards and follow what methodology to ensure victory？

Looking at your english here and how you lag any understanding of punctuation or grammar you really have some balls coming here and telling us what we are.

 

[trackwhack]

We must tell our students(North Indians) to eat more fish, thats one of the reason South Indian do well and so does the Chinese.

If you look at IIT and IISC alumnus, UP, Bihar students are the smartest. Way better that South Indians. Our Government research is filled with Southies primarily due to two reasons.

1) The top IITians go to the US
2) Research institutes in India are based in the South

 

[Iamanidiot]

If you look at IIT and IISC alumnus, UP, Bihar students are the smartest. Way better that South Indians. Our Government research is filled with Southies primarily due to two reasons.

1) The top IITians go to the US
2) Research institutes in India are based in the South

mallu's dominate all research institutes.Gults go to USA

 

[nrj]

"By Arindam Chaudhuri",

(Sorry, couldn't resist)

Too bad OP does not know about who the author is....

 

[p2prada]

If you look at IIT and IISC alumnus, UP, Bihar students are the smartest. Way better that South Indians. Our Government research is filled with Southies primarily due to two reasons.

1) The top IITians go to the US
2) Research institutes in India are based in the South

IIT is overrated. You don't need to be intelligent to get an Engineering degree, only hard work pays.

All this North vs South is BS. Intelligence is not patent to a single community. Intelligence is a gift, quite like dancing and singing.

Research institutes are based in the South only because the govt here is much more open to progress compared to the North. There are less chances for either the Chinese or Pakistanis to infiltrate research institutes in the South because of major language and ethnicity obstacles.

The biggest reason for most research institutes located in Bangalore is because the land was cheap and plentiful at the time. It was easy to get environmental clearances and set up massive research complexes that stretch for Kilometers.

The weather is good too. Less stressful if you compare Bangalore to other metros.

 

[pmaitra]

... only hard work pays. ...

Excellent!

Success is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration.

 

[trackwhack]

IIT is overrated. You don't need to be intelligent to get an Engineering degree, only hard work pays.

All this North vs South is BS. Intelligence is not patent to a single community. Intelligence is a gift, quite like dancing and singing.

Research institutes are based in the South only because the govt here is much more open to progress compared to the North. There are less chances for either the Chinese or Pakistanis to infiltrate research institutes in the South because of major language and ethnicity obstacles.

The biggest reason for most research institutes located in Bangalore is because the land was cheap and plentiful at the time. It was easy to get environmental clearances and set up massive research complexes that stretch for Kilometers.

The weather is good too. Less stressful if you compare Bangalore to other metros.

Explain the skew in north v south research scientists in DRDO, ISRO, BARC etc.

and explain the skew in north v south students in institutes like IIT, IISc, BITS and any other good tech institute.

My opinion is that Northies do well to get into good tech schools but then chase the money and go West.

On the other hand Southies are quite happy staying in India, not sure what the reasons are.

Andraites are different, They immigrate to the US in their 100's every year. In fact they dont get married until an H1B. Once they get an H1B, marry , get spouse over, procreate and make sure baby is born in the US thereby ensuring a green card.

 

[Tshering22]

Nothing about Chinese students having much bigger IQs or something. But I will highlight a few things in our education system:

- Obsession with rote memorization; despite all the promise, nothing has changed. Teachers still force kids to memorize.
- Zero research in scientific subjects. Research is discouraged by teachers as this would put them in a mostly questioning position.
- Zero exploratory approach towards studies. It is all about open-read-cram-remember formula rather than the obvious.
- Total disconnect between Central and State level education systems. No homogenized national system of education.

And Sibal and his cronies will make it worse.

Change these 4 things and see how we race ahead of many other countries.

 

[p2prada]

Explain the skew in north v south research scientists in DRDO, ISRO, BARC etc

Simple. DRDO and ISRO accept precious few IIT students from the North and any Tom, Dick and Harry with a BE in the South with 60-70% aggregate. Ratios are obviously skewed.

and explain the skew in north v south students in institutes like IIT, IISc, BITS and any other good tech institute.

South India has a comparatively smaller population than the North. More importantly, South India has like 200 engineering colleges in each state compared to a handful in each state in the North apart from the IITs and NITs. I think Chennai alone has 250 colleges.

My opinion is that Northies do well to get into good tech schools but then chase the money and go West.

On the other hand Southies are quite happy staying in India, not sure what the reasons are.

The proportion of Southies leaving the country is greater than Northies. Andhraites leave to UK and US like lemmings. Malayalees populate the Gulf like bees and Tamilians love South East Asias rubber plantations. The proportion of Northies coming to the South to study Engineering is vastly higher simply because of the large amount of colleges here. The highest amount of technology FDI and NRI remittances come mostly to South India. I guess Kerala tops the list for funds flow from the Middle East.

You are trying to compare 4 states in the South to some 15 odd states in the North. 3 of the 4 states in the South are growing above average rate.

Bangalore is job hub for engineering graduates | Bangalore | job city | The New Indian Express

The govts in the South have done quite well for the country.

 

[Armand2REP]

But I will highlight a few things in our education system:

- Obsession with rote memorization; despite all the promise, nothing has changed. Teachers still force kids to memorize.
- Zero research in scientific subjects. Research is discouraged by teachers as this would put them in a mostly questioning position.
- Zero exploratory approach towards studies. It is all about open-read-cram-remember formula rather than the obvious.
- Total disconnect between Central and State level education systems. No homogenized national system of education.

I didn't know you lived in China. :shocked: