Why do British people have such a pathetic attitude ?

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I have had the pleasure of attending hospitals in UK and Australia other than India. From my personal experience, NEVER fall sick in UK.

The doctors and nurses are great in UK actually. I was treated by one Pakistani origin doctor who I thought was an Indian, but a good doc nevertheless [The only person ever to have told me that my Hindi was great!]. But what's frightening is the time taken before you can actually see one! While it was alright for me to wait as it was nothing too unbearable, my colleague's pregnant wife had to struggle quite a bit. What she told was that when a pregnant lady calls the NHS, they dont allow them to come right until the moment they are 100% sure that the time is apt. It's not that they have fun in making patients suffer, but that's the only way that they can regulate the number of patients. But hey... its free!

Australia was fine. When I landed there, had some mysterious red spots all over my body. Rushed to a clinic, had to wait ( for a hour and not days like in UK). Saw a doc, he took a few tests, told me that the results will be there next week. Called them next week to be told that the tests were not conclusive. By that time I was all fine and so didnt bother wasting any more time. And had to pay something like 350 dollars for nothing!

Strangely, I never got such strange health issues when I am in India. Just the regular ones and our doctors handled them just fine. One big issue I have with doctors here in Bangalore when compared to the ones in my hometown is their habit of recommending strong doses of antibiotics for almost anything. Oh yeah... and when in big hospitals, say you are insured, they treat you like a cow and start milking right away!
 

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I am amazed that one person JayATL can take up so much of bandwidth and time of people and be spoken about in so many threads.

It appears that he is important to be discussed for some people or else why discuss?


 
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I have had the pleasure of attending hospitals in UK and Australia other than India. From my personal experience, NEVER fall sick in UK.

The doctors and nurses are great in UK actually. I was treated by one Pakistani origin doctor who I thought was an Indian, but a good doc nevertheless [The only person ever to have told me that my Hindi was great!]. But what's frightening is the time taken before you can actually see one! While it was alright for me to wait as it was nothing too unbearable, my colleague's pregnant wife had to struggle quite a bit. What she told was that when a pregnant lady calls the NHS, they dont allow them to come right until the moment they are 100% sure that the time is apt. It's not that they have fun in making patients suffer, but that's the only way that they can regulate the number of patients. But hey... its free!

Australia was fine. When I landed there, had some mysterious red spots all over my body. Rushed to a clinic, had to wait ( for a hour and not days like in UK). Saw a doc, he took a few tests, told me that the results will be there next week. Called them next week to be told that the tests were not conclusive. By that time I was all fine and so didnt bother wasting any more time. And had to pay something like 350 dollars for nothing!

Strangely, I never got such strange health issues when I am in India. Just the regular ones and our doctors handled them just fine. One big issue I have with doctors here in Bangalore when compared to the ones in my hometown is their habit of recommending strong doses of antibiotics for almost anything. Oh yeah... and when in big hospitals, say you are insured, they treat you like a cow and start milking right away!
Totally agree with your assessment of Indian docs overdoing the antibiotics thing.

And an additional thing - I have seen that Indian docs ask for lot of unnecessary tests and scans. Even if it is not really required.
 

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Its a circular discussion. You ask about Yuvraj and Sonia, there is also the point about the thousands of Americans and Brits who come to India for treatment.

The point is, there might be treatments for certain things like say, some types of cancer, that are more effective/efficient in the US. But for something like a simple heart surgery, a wisdom tooth extraction or an orthopedic procedure, there is absolutely nothing lacking in India's healthcare. Mind you, I am talking about hospitals like Apollo, Columbia Asia, Manipal, etc.

There are excellent doctors here, as well as mediocre ones. The good hospitals have good doctors.

I don't understand how the "quality of healthcare needs to improve in India" for you to come and work here! You are a doctor, not a patient, isn't it?

And finally: all the posts about healthcare etc. are related to JayATL's attitude. That is the central point of discussion on this thread.
The foreign tourists coming to India are the poor people in the west. Honestly.

Manipal, Apollo, Wockhardt etc. Got many many colleagues working there. Its a stepping stone for them to move to the west.

If I practice ethically, the neighbouring doctor will undercut me. He will call me bad names, he will create a image that I am bad. I have had personal experience in this regard. I cannot work ethically and treat patients to a high standard in a system which is not conducive to ethics.
 

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While I was writing the lengthy post (for my standards) above, realised that we are way off topic. But posted anyways as I didnt want to waste such a magnum opus! :)

On topic, I think its totally unfair to judge a country based on a few online comments. That would be like judging say a Ewald based on Jay or a Kickok based on some of those CPC sympathizers. You get the drift, dont you? :)

The British do have an attitude but its who they are. Some of the very best professionals I know are British, there is a lot that we can learn from them. And come on guys, we too have an attitude. For eg: we dont like any outsider to say anything that sounds remotely demeaning about ourselves. Some of the British have taken it that Indians have demeaned them by declaring that their product is lesser when compared to their age old rivals. Give them some time, they will get over it!
 

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I am amazed that one person JayATL can take up so much of bandwidth and time of people and be spoken about in so many threads.

It appears that he is important to be discussed for some people or else why discuss?

It is better to ignore such a person, if you find that person exasperating

Cut them out of your life, Give them the silent treatment and don't give them the satisfaction.

Right now, you all are giving him the satisfaction that he is 'centre point' of your existence on DFI, even if it is negative!

And one gets the impression that he is 'be all and end all' of the thoughts of those who are giving him so much of bandwidth!
Well it's simple . I tend to point out the utter rubbish people say here many times and when I do, I ' jaytatl' become the focus and da " anti -Indian', to distract from the fact that I called their sheer stupidity out. then they dig themselves more but continuing to stand firm with utter foolish statements like UK middle class standard of living is lower than India's middle class.

Ofcourse I have fun with it- especially when I can get DFI's so called " respected memebers" to call me a ****** and cracker lover etc. ;)...:lol
 

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The average IQ of bangloreans that used to be high must have failed due to people like you flooding the call centers. What happened to your claim about me saying its Rich vs middle class? you weaseled out of another bullshit on these forums. :rofl:

Now to the rest of it, halkat soolimagane . You can squeal like a pig about drivers and maids and rest.but only an equal idiot here will agree with you that your middle class lives a higher standard of living than UK's middle class. You will still have to wade through overflowing sewers in your chappals when it rains.... your driver won't carry you on his head :D

another thing- how stupid are you to show amitabh's house and claim it to be some grand place? a support actor , character actor forget no1 actor in US or UK like amitabh was in his industry for decades, lives in a bigger better house than amitabh.
:lol::wave:

Learn , educate yourself about standard of living measurements..
Ley, huccha naayi, you are a lying scoundrel - you lie like you breathe on every other post. You were the one who claimed that AB and SRT live worse than any Westerner of any class.

You filthy wannabe yankee, I haven't "waded through sewers" in my recent memory. It is only people like you who make it out that every Indian wades through sewers and that kind of shit. You aren't even worth cleaning my ass.

And listen to what this born wannabe-white asslicker chaprasi says: even a support actor in the UK lives better than Amitabh. And this rascal will turn around a few posts later and claim that he never said it. Fool.
 

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Edit, this has been discussed a million times already. No vernacular that cannot be understood and given the trend appears to be a string of abuses.

There are problems in India such as below-par infrastructure in many places, you can't drink water straight from the tap, and so on. Yes, these are problems.

But is it tough for you to understand that the middle class in India pretty much insulates itself from all these problems by a variety of means? Such as buying a dirt-cheap but hugely effective ultraviolet water purifier. Or employing a driver. When was the last time you heard of a middle class person in UK/US being able to afford a driver consistently? Employing maids to perform the housework. By not going to pathetic government hospitals, but the great private ones. By getting ultra cheap healthcare and not having to worry about whether one is eligible to be treated by the state or not.

In addition to insulating themselves from these problems, the neo-rich Indian middle class is also able to accumulate tangible assets like a plot of land or an apartment, at a very young age - as low as 25-30 years in most cases. This is not easy to do in the West at such a young age.

Do you understand this? Or are you trying to act stubborn on purpose? :frusty:
Weasled out another bullshit claim that I said rich vs middle class , yeah? when asked to prove it. you go to the time tested idiotic statements of drivers and maids = higher standard of living. Show us more images of amitabh's house , the no1 actor for decades in bolloywood, whose house is smaller and worse than a characater actor, 2nd string support actor in UK or US.
 

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I am amazed that one person JayATL can take up so much of bandwidth and time of people and be spoken about in so many threads.

It appears that he is important to be discussed for some people or else why discuss?


Imagine a life where he is insignificant both in the real as well as virtual world. The man may kill himself. We are trying to cure him of his delusions. If not for DFI, what would Jay feed off. Irrespective of how unpopular he is, we must accept he is a patient and help him get over his inferiority complex and fears. Thats the only remedy for his illness.
 

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Imagine a life where he is insignificant both in the real as well as virtual world. The man may kill himself. We are trying to cure him of his delusions. If not for DFI, what would Jay feed off. Irrespective of how unpopular he is, we must accept he is a patient and help him get over his inferiority complex and fears. Thats the only remedy for his illness.
:rofl:

A noble cause alright, but it is driving the Mod Team insane!

Too much of profanity is slipping past the radar! :)
 

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Amithab haveing a house in bombay is equal to haveing a house in New York. The property prices in Bombay are insane, no hollywood actor has a house like that in New York. He also has houses in Lavasa, UP, Gujarat.
 

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Ley, huccha naayi, you are a lying scoundrel - you lie like you breathe on every other post. You were the one who claimed that AB and SRT live worse than any Westerner of any class.

You filthy wannabe yankee, I haven't "waded through sewers" in my recent memory. It is only people like you who make it out that every Indian wades through sewers and that kind of shit. You aren't even worth cleaning my ass.

And listen to what this born wannabe-white asslicker chaprasi says: even a support actor in the UK lives better than Amitabh. And this rascal will turn around a few posts later and claim that he never said it. Fool.


Prove it where I said that amitabh and sachin vs any class and not " counter part", Its simple to do it beta.



BANGALORE: Overflowing drains, flooded houses, long power cuts and fallen trees - the uninvited woes continue to make their way back into the city ..............

City faces monsoon blues - Times Of India




support actor jeremey reiner's house... LOL you don't know what a support actor is right? haha ignorance is bliss for you. Yes, support actors , forget UK and US no1 actor's house is bigger, better than amitabh's

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/hom...d-a-gated-and-restored-1924-greek-reviva.html


UK / US TV actors forget holloywood actors have bigger and better house than amitabh's

shower me with more racist remarks on the comeback . I love it that I show you to be the gutter level poster , similar to what you wade in everytime you tep out in your slighly heavy banglore moonson :lol:
 
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Prove it where I said that amitabh and sachin vs any class and not " counter part", Its simple to do it beta.



BANGALORE: Overflowing drains, flooded houses, long power cuts and fallen trees - the uninvited woes continue to make their way back into the city ..............

City faces monsoon blues - Times Of India




support actor jeremey reiner's house... LOL you don't know what a support actor is right? haha ignorance is bliss for you. Yes, support actors , forget UK and US no1 actor's house is bigger, better than amitabh's

Hot Property: 'Hurt Locker' star Jeremy Renner <br> sells house in the Hollywood Hills - latimes.com
Edited! Foul language!
 

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The thread is:

Why do British people have such a pathetic attitude ?

Are we discussing that or Sachin and Amitabh?

Are they British people with pathetic attitude?

Should we close this thread and you can open one on Sachin and Amitabh!
 

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Hahaha This is nothing compared to Antilla. :laugh:

He could not give anything in UK so ge moved of to US. Houses in UK are smaller than in US.

This loser sold out and he is justifying why he did that to us by showing haveing bigger houses causes more happiness.. How many bollywood actors killed themselves like Whitney Huston, Michel Jackson, Ammy Wine house!! hahahah.... Haveing big house and licking white crack whore equals happiness to this loser.
 

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Next irrelevant post and this thread closes!

NO whimpering thereafter, please!
 

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Dragon slayer has a deep metaphysical meaning behind it!

In Chinese it is possibly

龙杀手
 
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