Why didnt Pakistan name its curreny Dhiram/Riyal or something??

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Since Pakistan is NOT AN ARAB country they could not name their currency as dirham or riyal

Jinnah did nothing wrong .Political power is the dream of all politicians.
Why be a small fish in a large pond ie UNDIVIDED INDIA rather than being a BIG FISH in a small pond ie Pakistan.

The country was hijacked by the clergy ,fuedals and the army.That is the problem of Pakistan.

Pakistani rulers aligned their country to SAUDI WAHABI ISLAM

Why ,Because they wanted to break all ties with India and their primarily South Asian existence
But Nothing useful happened .It resulted in extremism

And the SAUDIS LOOK DOWN upon them because they always want aid
 

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Do Pakistanis relate more to Arabs or Persians. Their Urdu is highly Persianized. Their National Anthem is totally in Persian. Also I think they thought themselves as the successors of Mughals and would therefore have retained the Rupee.
 

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Since Pakistan is NOT AN ARAB country they could not name their currency as dirham or riyal

Jinnah did nothing wrong .Political power is the dream of all politicians.
Why be a small fish in a large pond ie UNDIVIDED INDIA rather than being a BIG FISH in a small pond ie Pakistan.

The country was hijacked by the clergy ,fuedals and the army.That is the problem of Pakistan.

Pakistani rulers aligned their country to SAUDI WAHABI ISLAM

Why ,Because they wanted to break all ties with India and their primarily South Asian existence
But Nothing useful happened .It resulted in extremism

And the SAUDIS LOOK DOWN upon them because they always want aid
Jinnah did nothing wrong? maybe if you had been around as a hindu in Rawalpindi or Lahore in 1947 you would have had a different opinion. It is disgusting to come across fellow Indians showing such disunity on simple topic on some forum, forget about unity in real life.

I request all Indians to STOP BEING MAGNANIMOUS TOWARDS THE CREATOR OF PAKISTAN. You hardly come across a Pakistani sheilding or praising Gandhi. WE SHOULD STOP PUTTING THE BLAME ON OURSELVES LIKE FOOLS.
 

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The simple reason is because they don't have an identity of their own. There's no such thing as Pakistani culture in general which is nothing but a hybrid and cheap mixture of Indian, Iranian and Arabic customs, largely the latter. Their language is a botched up version of a messy Persian mixed with Sanskrit and Arabic, their script is modern Iranian rather than Avestan which was the ancient language of Persia, they relate more to Arabs than anyone else.

Now coming to Pakistan retaining the Rupee name, is because they need a host to be known around the world and India serves as their perfect host. As someone here nicely said, if India steps aside, they have no identity. Their existence depends on everything that we aren't yet take points from our way of life and culture and mix them with Arab customs to form what is theirs. Just like matter and anti-matter in quantum physics, they're our anti-matter.

To keep rupee word, they use the excuse that they also inherited the stuff from British India rather than acknowledging its Sanskrit origins. In short, they have a twisted reason for every act of plagiarism they make; be it culture, religion, language, identity, customs etc.
 

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Actually the trend of pakistanis as arabs turks mughal etc was started by the migrating muslims from UP during partition.They considered them selves as true hire of the mughals.Hence the first causality of it was the language due to the imposition of urdu on the native people.urdu as never native to pakistan.This trend of pakistanis as arabs was later hijacked by punjab.hence punjabization of pakistan took place after 1971.
 

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Jinnah did nothing wrong? maybe if you had been around as a hindu in Rawalpindi or Lahore in 1947 you would have had a different opinion. It is disgusting to come across fellow Indians showing such disunity on simple topic on some forum, forget about unity in real life.

I request all Indians to STOP BEING MAGNANIMOUS TOWARDS THE CREATOR OF PAKISTAN. You hardly come across a Pakistani sheilding or praising Gandhi. WE SHOULD STOP PUTTING THE BLAME ON OURSELVES LIKE FOOLS.
Jinnah wanted Pakistan. EXPLICITLY . The communal violence that happened of course should not have happened but then WE DONT LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD.

Gandhiji succeeded in the FREE DOM STRUGGLE .But many of his ideas like non violence are impractical and
irrelevant.

Gandhiji is STILL one of the MOST RESPECTED PERSONS ON EARTH .We dont NEED PAKISTANI PRAISE for Gandhiji.

But Jinnah was SUCCESSFUL IN CREATING A NEW COUNTRY.
 

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Jinnah did nothing wrong? maybe if you had been around as a hindu in Rawalpindi or Lahore in 1947 you would have had a different opinion. It is disgusting to come across fellow Indians showing such disunity on simple topic on some forum, forget about unity in real life.

I request all Indians to STOP BEING MAGNANIMOUS TOWARDS THE CREATOR OF PAKISTAN. You hardly come across a Pakistani sheilding or praising Gandhi. WE SHOULD STOP PUTTING THE BLAME ON OURSELVES LIKE FOOLS.
Well thats the difference between them and us.They are from us we are not from them.So there is no wrong in praising the good qualities even if they are in jinnah or in zardari.
 

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Pakistanis have tried SO MANY THINGS
1. Islam. 2. democracy with FUEDALISM . 3. Army rule and dictatorsip . 4. Saudi Wahabism 5. Strict Islamic rules leading to Talibanisation.
6.STRATEGIC DEPTH ( This takes the cake )
7.terrorism as state policy.
8. BUSINESSES Run by ARMY.
9 1000 year war declared on India.
10 Media led jingoism leading to all sorts of CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

My Verdict :pakistan is TOTALLY AND IRREVERSIBLY MESSED UP.IT IS BEYOND REPAIR
 

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Was just wondering that Pakistan did its best to delink its history from India, why did it not change the name of its currency Rupees which is very much Indian and based on a sanskrit word?? Why did it not rename its currency to Riyal or Dhiram or something as they try to identify themselves more with Arabs??
I presume because Rupee is an Urdu term and was coined by a Muslim king of India.

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You are mixing up things.Jinnah never wanted a islamist state what he wanted was a muslim state.There is quite big difference in being islamic state like Saudi aran and being a muslim state like turkey.
A Muslim state and an Islamist state are mutually exclusive concepts. If Saudi Arabia is an Islamist Monarchy then Turkey is a Secular Democracy.

Jinnah, simplistically speaking, wanted a state where Muslim elite would continue to be all powerful.
 

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if Jinnah would have lived Pakistan may have been a moderate country like Turkey
After Jinnah's early death it became a "free for all" and " might is right " situation.

The clergy , Army and the feudals took the power .

Jinnah wanted a moderate pakistan but his dream died with him
 

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if Jinnah would have lived Pakistan may have been a moderate country like Turkey
After Jinnah's early death it became a "free for all" and " might is right " situation.

The clergy , Army and the feudals took the power .

Jinnah wanted a moderate pakistan but his dream died with him
A moderate Pakistan would have been a bigger danger to India. With the Kashmir Dispute remaining unresolved & east Pakistan remaining intact we would have been in greater danger. A moderate pakistan under jinnah or a like minded successor would have been a more successful state and hence a more formidable challenge. Those feudal, fanatic loonies ruining Pakistan is good for us.
 

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Actually the trend of pakistanis as arabs turks mughal etc was started by the migrating muslims from UP during partition.They considered them selves as true hire of the mughals.Hence the first causality of it was the language due to the imposition of urdu on the native people.urdu as never native to pakistan.This trend of pakistanis as arabs was later hijacked by punjab.hence punjabization of pakistan took place after 1971.
It is quite correct that the Muslim elite of India(Delhi, Bihar, MP, Hyderabad, Lucknow, Rampur etc) considered themselves the true heirs of Mughal empire and looked down up other Muslims. They considered themselves the epitome of the rich muslim culture of India.

Muslim elite were worried that with Independence their hereditary entitlements, wealth and lands would all be lost, they would cease to be influential in a democracy. No wonder then, that they were the biggest backers of Jinnah and Pakistan because this was a state which would allow them to be all powerful even after Independence.

Pakistani history in the beginning was completely shaped by Muhajirs (or Indian Muslims). It was only later that their influence started waning and Pakistan was now dominated by Feudals, Punjabis, Army and Mullahs.

Well thats the difference between them and us.They are from us we are not from them.So there is no wrong in praising the good qualities even if they are in jinnah or in zardari.
There is nothing wrong with praising a person blessed with good qualities irrespective of his nationality, having said that Indians praising a Pakistani solely because we consider him to be of Indian origin is well stupid.
 

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Jinnah is long dead, Pakistan is as moderate as Saudi Arab is Christian. Let's get back to discussing the actual focus of this thread on the failure of Pakistani ruling elite to come up with a catchy distinctive name for their currency, shall we?

I just wondered why didn't they call their currency "Pakistani", taking cue from their "brothers" to the west.
 

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I dont know how you can compare a Saint Like Gandhi, and a Jinnah, who wanted a State to Rule! Yes, Jinnah might have had secular Ideas, but the thing is that, he just wanted a country for Himself, and Islam played the role of a facilitator. Gandhiji was above all that! Thats why he is called a Mahatma.

Gandhi stands on a whole different level, and people like Jinnah and Company and Nehru and Company stand in a totally different level. You cant take their names in the same breath as Gandhiji.

The Thing I admire most about Gandhiji is that, he openly accepted all the mistakes and wrong doings he did in his life, and spoke the truth. At the end of the day, thats what makes him different!
 

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Paaj, rupee is not urdu. Its taken from sanskrit. How did it become urdu. Yes it was coined by a muslim king but that king was very much indian.
 

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Paaj, rupee is not urdu. Its taken from sanskrit. How did it become urdu. Yes it was coined by a muslim king but that king was very much indian.
Rupee is an Urdu word of Sanskrit origin. At the time the language of the courts was Persian and Urdu was developing. Urdu is also an Indian language btw and there are many Urdu words of Sanskrit origin.
Our friends in the east consider Sher Shah Suri a part of their legacy, which also includes Tipu Sultan, Babur, Humayun, Akbar, Sikander Lodhi, Mahmud Ghazni, Taimurlane, Indus Valley civilization, Vedas etc.

I can't explain it, neither can Pakistanis, ergo the confusion wrt their identity.
 

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Thinking of it, Pakistanis claim they invented ZERO and Tipu Sultan is also seen as a Pakistani hahahahah :)
 

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So does it mean that they would be using the new Rupee symbol since its in devnagri , also does this symbol apply to the other nations using rupee as their currency name just like $ .
 

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They could have used rupiah instead of rupees just like Indonesia , that sounds more urdu to me.
 

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