Why cant India start covert ops in Pakistan ????

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Problem with Dawood is, many of our netas are indebted to him, and have had really questionable deals with him in the 1990s. If Dawood gets wind of an operation being planned against him, a lot of our netas will be exposed. This man has a lot of them in his pocket that way.

Hafiz Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar are easier, definitely.
 

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After hearing about all these attacks happening in pakistan still u guys thinks that talibs are the only ones carrying out attacks there?RAW is there in the back stage..100% sure
Even if it is true why you are sharing here
 

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Problem with Dawood is, many of our netas are indebted to him, and have had really questionable deals with him in the 1990s. If Dawood gets wind of an operation being planned against him, a lot of our netas will be exposed. This man has a lot of them in his pocket that way.

Hafiz Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar are easier, definitely.
Wondering if this mission is green go. Then we will have to take Dawood before others. As killing other might create political disturbance between both the countries & both Army can be face to face on front. Also Dawood will go underground again or fly to some other country. Tracing him back will take another few years or more.

Get Dawood first, Hafiz & other won't go anywhere. Only his security will beef up. Terrorist network in Mumbai & other places will be affected. We can take them down some other day. Also, India can fight Hafiz & his chaps(terrorist activities) but not Dawood(his black money network). Main motive behind taking down Dawood should be, making him pay for blasts & other Murders. Sending message to enemy that Today or Tomorrow we will take you down, if you mess with us.

Or get them on target at the same time, at different places, it will be damn difficult but still there are chances.
 

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Dawood is not an easy one but Hafiz is indeed. But if Osama is possible for America, then Dawood is definitely possible for India. Not considering the Osama type mission, just a sniper shot on head.
I agree with you on Saeed being easier part. However, these people are protected by the ISI. Eliminating them using snipers is, I'm guessing, not feasible because the ISI has already taken countermeasures to prevent such an eventuality. What is more feasible, if I'm not incorrect is infiltration and working up the ladder of the terror groups and D-Company. But that takes a lot of money and many years time, sometimes even decades.
At times, I find it impossible to believe that RAW has no covert operations in Pakistan. Whatever Gujral did, was extremely shameful and perhaps there is some truth to the fact that RAW agents were flushed from Pakistan at that time. However, if the present situation in Pakistan is an indicator, it might be that RAW has started its machinery once again in the land of the pigs. Instability is the muddy water in which one can fish for terrorists and other covert agencies might be doing just that to fish out the bigger trouts hiding in Pakistan. However, everything is in the realms of speculation as true operation details are almost never found out.
 

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Are there any Hindus left in pakistan to act as sleeper cells like we have IM operatives spread all over India?
 

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Our dhotis, kurta-pajamas and safari suits are simply terrified of targeted reprisals- not against the country and the aam admi, but against them, their kin and their interests.

Which is why we'll never see targeted killings by this side.
 

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If it is covert operation then how can you say that India is not doing any covert operation? Since it is covert.:D
 

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@spikey360 I was also believe that the machinery has been started. :whistle:

IK Gujral is critical and is in Hospital, he is around 92 years suffering from Lung infection. Waiting for Doctors to send him home, which means he's gonna die next day. If you see the recent deaths of famous personalities, docs just send them home, one day before death.

As per the last reports, Dawood is in well furnished house & living life like King, he is being protected by Pak Army Commandos & has various security layers including his own men. His security compound is similar to Osama, the only difference is he has each & every facility. For this each & every facility India's rich people are paying including those rich politicians.

Yes he/they are protected by ISI but we don't have choice other than a sniper shot, as going Boom Boom from air will be too loud for both the countries. A well planned attack will be successful. We can use Sniper or Snipers to make sure that they don't get time to take cover.

We have everything to take him down except will to take him down & support of some senior RAW officers, who can keep the matter away from Ministers doesn't care if that means the Prime-Minister also.
 
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Are there any Hindus left in pakistan to act as sleeper cells like we have IM operatives spread all over India?
Yes, we have Hindus & Christians there but all are living in state of fear. Something like IM to India, in Pakistan won't be success & will be a blunder. May be there are. Who knows.
 

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India is surrounded by enemies from all sides, pretty much like Israel.
But our political leadership and even the society is not interested to look at evil in the eye and deal with it.
I don't know from where this escapist piskology has settled in us.

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Ok, this is hearsay.

This happened after some terrorists strayed into Himachal Pradesh and killed some villagers before being hunted down and killed.

Subsequently, Indian commandos sneaked into PoK in the night, beheaded some villagers, and came back. It was done to send the message that we too are capable of it.
I just inquired, it was 1998 Chamba massacre. They also attacked the GREF labors, who were working there. After receiving the information Police Search Party started searching. Don't know much about it but Police Party was kind of ambushed & 2 policemen lost their lives. One of the Policemen was my relative.
 

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Instead of paying for gorshakov,why don't our govt put a bounty on the heads of dawood,hafeez saeed,zakir and one more Jud chief who was released during kandahaar seize!!!!The amount of hatred for india these ppl spread was quite evident by hearing the conversations on TV between the handlers in pak and kasab and company..."kill them,shoot them,burn every thing", nothing else...... with help of IM sleepers who are our own misguided brothers, we are going to fight a loosing battle!!!Pak is exploiting poor ppl like kasab and in the name of religion and jihad is trying its best to damage india !!! Our Govt should emabark on a program to see that poor and jobless young men do not fall pray to IM,LeT,SiMi nefarious designs masterminded by ISI.
 

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LeT chief is spitting venom against India in public rallies. We can use the chance. Why dont we use to take him out with paid mercenaries from Af-Pak borders.
 

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@spikey360 I was also believe that the machinery has been started. :whistle:

IK Gujral is critical and is in Hospital, he is around 92 years suffering from Lung infection. Waiting for Doctors to send him home, which means he's gonna die next day. If you see the recent deaths of famous personalities, docs just send them home, one day before death.
@spikey360

IK Gujral dead. Looks like god has listened to me.
 
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IK Gujral dead. Looks like god has listened to me.
Yup, he is dead alright. Although he deserves credit for the foreign policy he had chalked out for India, the way he ruined RAW operations in Pakistan is disgusting. Anyway, may he rest in peace, he served his country according to his capabilities I guess.
 
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India is surrounded by enemies from all sides, pretty much like Israel.
But our political leadership and even the society is not interested to look at evil in the eye and deal with it.
I don't know from where this escapist piskology has settled in us.

Regards,
Virendra
Well said those enemies were created by India and its stupid policies. In 1971 India liberated BD but India failed to made BD as land locked country and Indra gandhi supported Eelam free land but our stupid kangress leaders thought that Rajiv assassination is more important than national interest as result china having strong base in Chittagong and Hamantota.Now India don't know what to do? stupid policy makers. If you speaks mercy ,righteous ,generous things means better run an ashram instead of country.
 
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In, order to carry out strikes in another country, it takes political will, technological dominance and the balls and heart to take back the blowback when it strike right in the face. None of which exist in the Lok Sabha.

Bharat sees its new savior in Modi, who can look tough to Pakistan. I, would be more interested in seeing how he behaves after getting the security clearance. This is when he will find out if he can afford to look tough on Pakistan to appease his extremist voters, or sees the reality and learns to bite the bullet like many before him.

We, are cool either way.
 
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In, order to carry out strikes in another country, it takes political will, technological dominance and the balls and heart to take back the blowback when it strike right in the face. None of which exist in the Lok Sabha.
Well maybe then Loksabha will wait for another Indira Gandhi.

She was the only man in her cabinet as well.
 

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Well maybe then Loksabha will wait for another Indira Gandhi.

She was the only man in her cabinet as well.
Did you not see the IK Gujral thread ?

Between 1981 and 1997, the Prime Ministers in office followed a dual policy of "talk, talk, hit, hit" against Pakistan. They never fought shy of talking to Pakistani leaders and officials. At the same time, they never missed an opportunity to undermine the State of Pakistan covertly in retaliation against its covert actions against India.
Under Cover Of Deniability | B. Raman
 

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