Who supplied cutting edge technology to Terrorists?

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Arnab Banerjee

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dear friends i am going to answer the most important question of our security.

we see that the terrorists are receiving new technology day by day. recent news is that the terrorists now have LIQUID BOMB which cannot be detected by the most powerful security measures available.

now the terrorist can easily move on with high explosive in spite of all security measure.

now the question is who taught this technology of liquid bomb to the terrorists?

for answer we will consider some data:

The Arms Trade is Big Business — Global Issues

the data extracted from the above link:

the arms sale by supplier nations:

america 39%

russia 18%

france 8%

uk 7%

other nation 22% ( in total)

the arms purchase by recipient developping nation

saudi arabia 15%

india 13%

UAE 6%

egypt 5%

pakistan 4%

other nations 44%( in total)

now lets analyse the data and try to establish linking.


america is the biggest seller of weapon, no doubt, following russia. but who are the buyer?

i can club the recipient country on the basis of religion:

hindu india 13%

muslim (s.arabia+ UAE+ egypt+ pakistan) [15+ 6+ 5+ 4] 30%

other non muslim/non hindu countries 44%

so we see from above analysis that muslims buy 30% of the total arms trade, more than twice of hindu i.e. 13%.


and guess who the muslims support most? terrorists/jihadist.

now you see how terrorists acquire high technology like liquid bomb?

jihadist have neither infrastructure nor scientific talent to invent high tech weapon.

it is america that sells high tech weapon to the jihadist and pretend to fight terrorism.

double role of america is really praiseworthy.

friends we must be careful. america is NOT THE FRIEND of india. it is the friend of its own business interest.
 

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Everything is fine until you started to divide on the basis of religion and D.F.I. is not a place were you make a divide based on religion and TERROR has no religion. It is better you change the division based on the percentage of end-user and not religion.

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Religion Is the fundamental cause of Islamic Terrorism globally but you can't ignore other factors like money .................
 

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It got more to do with history and perceived threat than religion.
 

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look here terrorist means muslim terrorist because no other religion but islam is spreading terrorism now in the world especially in india. tell me what are the religion other than islam that has a wide network like muslim terrorist in india or in the world? so my classification is reasonable and has a solid base.

now the second point is that since it is the question of the defense of this country, we should not talk like politicians that religion should not be the basis of division. if necessary for our defense strategy, religion will be the basis of division.

third point only muslim terrorists got liquid bomb technology and nobody else got this tech.

so brothers, we must divide the data based on religion.
 

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Arnab, you need to get yourself a keyboard where the Caps-Lock and Shift keys actually work.
 

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well guys you need a better brain to think. you are emotional and emotional people don't have rational mind. the security of india is in your hand and if you don't pay attention to the information then india will suffer from damage.

i have done my job. now its your time.
 

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More than religion it is the arms manufacturers who are the chief `sutradhars` here. They are happy to sell arms to anyone and laugh all the way to the bank! India is only one Hindu country vs so many Muslim or Christian countries so your `classification` arms buying nations does not make sense. The idea is to sell a `danda` to one nation say Pakistan and wait for its rival say India to aim for a bigger `danda`and so on.
 

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yes exactly it is arms manufacturer. and who are they? they are Americans. my point is americans are selling high tech fighting machine to the muslim countries and muslim countries give those high tech thing to the terrorists. so india should not trust america as her friend. this point is based on the data and the classification.

i am requesting you again for not being emotional on the point of religious classification.
 

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Since when did Terrorist get any Liquid bombs? Isnt USA doing a blockade on them, then how can they get anything except Home made AK-47, RPGs and Grenades? The POF also supplies some heavy guns but not high technology.
 

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Anything to do with underwear and bombs has surely got to have originated in Pakistan.
That's where the biggest dirtiest d**s are.
 

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@Arnab

Since when did you see a terrorist use an F-16 jet or a C-130J transport plane. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you discuss this as a basis of "tech" transfer to terrorists. We have no problems and infact excellent relations with UAE, KSA and Egypt. Hell we even have security and defence pacts signed with UAE and KSA.

Bomb making is not rocket science. We have people in India like the Sanathan Sanstha making home made bombs and they didnt' need the US to teach them how to make bombs Â’08 bomb attacks: 2 Sanatan Sanstha men held guilty - Indian Express

But yes I do agree that the recent spate of political Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon of around 3 decades old and is an offshoot of the Afghan-Soviet war. The so called Mujahideen were given some expert sabotage and bomb making technique training by the CIA, ISI , Mossad, Chinese and other western agencies. The finance was provided by the US and Gulf Arab countries like Saudi Arabia. radical fringe outfits from all over the Muslim world were encouraged to go to Afghanistan to fight the soviets. So you have the most powerful countries in the world and huge amount of financing being thrown in as well to train a group of radical fringe loonies in art of bomb making, sabotage and what not.

And once the war ended, these radicalised groups who were already loonies now had the training of some of the best bomb making and sabotage techniques available. It took another 10 years and the 9/11 attacks for the US and later the terror bombings in Saudi Arabia for both of these countries to start de-radicalisation and counter-terrorism efforts. But while the Saudis have learnt their lesson and are slowly moving towards de-radicalisation and cracking down on terrorists, Pakistan still has not done so.

So while the US and Saudi intelligence work closely to infiltrate and stop terrorists attacks, the Pakistanis refuse even to prosecute Hafiz Saeed.

Now that we have sorted out the ridiculous notion of US made F-16 being used by terrorists. lets look at your assetion that US is not to be trusted because it sells military equipment to those who pay for it.
The US sells military equiment to those who pay for it. If India pays twice what the Saudis pay, the US will be more than happy to sell it to India. It was the MoD in India that decided against buying US jets. And with the recent defense pact Antony signed on his visit to KSA, we might be getting the Saudis to invest or buy from us too which would give a boost to our defense industry just as their purchases has kept the US defense industry going strong for the last 3-4 decades.
The US is an important partner for India and there should be no reason to expect that US will provide American tech. to terrorists either directly or indirectly. That is more like a conspiracy theory to be honest.
 

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@Arnab

Since when did you see a terrorist use an F-16 jet or a C-130J transport plane. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you discuss this as a basis of "tech" transfer to terrorists. We have no problems and infact excellent relations with UAE, KSA and Egypt. Hell we even have security and defence pacts signed with UAE and KSA.

Bomb making is not rocket science. We have people in India like the Sanathan Sanstha making home made bombs and they didnt' need the US to teach them how to make bombs Â’08 bomb attacks: 2 Sanatan Sanstha men held guilty - Indian Express

But yes I do agree that the recent spate of political Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon of around 3 decades old and is an offshoot of the Afghan-Soviet war. The so called Mujahideen were given some expert sabotage and bomb making technique training by the CIA, ISI , Mossad, Chinese and other western agencies. The finance was provided by the US and Gulf Arab countries like Saudi Arabia. radical fringe outfits from all over the Muslim world were encouraged to go to Afghanistan to fight the soviets. So you have the most powerful countries in the world and huge amount of financing being thrown in as well to train a group of radical fringe loonies in art of bomb making, sabotage and what not.

And once the war ended, these radicalised groups who were already loonies now had the training of some of the best bomb making and sabotage techniques available. It took another 10 years and the 9/11 attacks for the US and later the terror bombings in Saudi Arabia for both of these countries to start de-radicalisation and counter-terrorism efforts. But while the Saudis have learnt their lesson and are slowly moving towards de-radicalisation and cracking down on terrorists, Pakistan still has not done so.

So while the US and Saudi intelligence work closely to infiltrate and stop terrorists attacks, the Pakistanis refuse even to prosecute Hafiz Saeed.

Now that we have sorted out the ridiculous notion of US made F-16 being used by terrorists. lets look at your assetion that US is not to be trusted because it sells military equipment to those who pay for it.
The US sells military equiment to those who pay for it. If India pays twice what the Saudis pay, the US will be more than happy to sell it to India. It was the MoD in India that decided against buying US jets. And with the recent defense pact Antony signed on his visit to KSA, we might be getting the Saudis to invest or buy from us too which would give a boost to our defense industry just as their purchases has kept the US defense industry going strong for the last 3-4 decades.
The US is an important partner for India and there should be no reason to expect that US will provide American tech. to terrorists either directly or indirectly. That is more like a conspiracy theory to be honest.
Terrorists don't use F16 or C-10's for obvious reasons, but they will definitely use explosives like plastic bomb liquid bomb if possible even dirty bombs.
 

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dear friends i am going to answer the most important question of our security.

we see that the terrorists are receiving new technology day by day. recent news is that the terrorists now have LIQUID BOMB which cannot be detected by the most powerful security measures available.

now the terrorist can easily move on with high explosive in spite of all security measure.

now the question is who taught this technology of liquid bomb to the terrorists?

for answer we will consider some data:

The Arms Trade is Big Business — Global Issues

the data extracted from the above link:

the arms sale by supplier nations:

america 39%

russia 18%

france 8%

uk 7%

other nation 22% ( in total)

the arms purchase by recipient developping nation

saudi arabia 15%

india 13%

UAE 6%

egypt 5%

pakistan 4%

other nations 44%( in total)

now lets analyse the data and try to establish linking.


america is the biggest seller of weapon, no doubt, following russia. but who are the buyer?

i can club the recipient country on the basis of religion:

hindu india 13%

muslim (s.arabia+ UAE+ egypt+ pakistan) [15+ 6+ 5+ 4] 30%

other non muslim/non hindu countries 44%

so we see from above analysis that muslims buy 30% of the total arms trade, more than twice of hindu i.e. 13%.


and guess who the muslims support most? terrorists/jihadist.

now you see how terrorists acquire high technology like liquid bomb?

jihadist have neither infrastructure nor scientific talent to invent high tech weapon.

it is america that sells high tech weapon to the jihadist and pretend to fight terrorism.

double role of america is really praiseworthy.

friends we must be careful. america is NOT THE FRIEND of india. it is the friend of its own business interest.
Your analysis is BS. US does not supply liquid bomb to Pakistan in the first place.
 
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well guys you need a better brain to think. you are emotional and emotional people don't have rational mind. the security of india is in your hand and if you don't pay attention to the information then india will suffer from damage.

i have done my job. now its your time.
As far as entertainment goes (and I assure you I'm being entertained), the only thing that eclipses the stupidity of your thesis is your ass backward understanding of emotional irrationality. ****Irony alert*** Yep that's right, the true emotional irrational chump here is YOU. Your obsessive Islamophobia fueled by immature, misplaced and uncontrolled emotions has made you irrational, as evinced by your idiotic drivel.... or as you like to put it your "data analysis".

Islamic terrorists use crude improvised explosive devices that are either taped to their testicles (apparently the current fave) or hidden in other dark and moist unsuspecting places. Explosive devices can be made by anyone with a basic knowledge of chemistry and a little lab equipment... which can be sought on the open market anywhere. The majority of the bunch who run around the mountains and live in conditions resembling the planet of the apes use Kalashnikovs, and vintage RPGs of Russian origin; or similar weaponry sourced from Iran. There is also a gigantic local Industry in the badlands of western Pakistan churning out unsophisticated albeit lethal weaponry that forms the bulk of the arms supply. On the Israeli front weapons acquired by the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah are either of Soviet and/or Chinese origin funneled through Iran and Syria.

In recent times the only sophisticated American weaponry used by Islamic terrorists that was made by the likes of Boeing were the four hijacked aircrafts used on 9/11.
 

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@Arnab

Since when did you see a terrorist use an F-16 jet or a C-130J transport plane. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound when you discuss this as a basis of "tech" transfer to terrorists. We have no problems and infact excellent relations with UAE, KSA and Egypt. Hell we even have security and defence pacts signed with UAE and KSA.

Bomb making is not rocket science. We have people in India like the Sanathan Sanstha making home made bombs and they didnt' need the US to teach them how to make bombs Â’08 bomb attacks: 2 Sanatan Sanstha men held guilty - Indian Express

But yes I do agree that the recent spate of political Islamic terrorism is a new phenomenon of around 3 decades old and is an offshoot of the Afghan-Soviet war. The so called Mujahideen were given some expert sabotage and bomb making technique training by the CIA, ISI , Mossad, Chinese and other western agencies. The finance was provided by the US and Gulf Arab countries like Saudi Arabia. radical fringe outfits from all over the Muslim world were encouraged to go to Afghanistan to fight the soviets. So you have the most powerful countries in the world and huge amount of financing being thrown in as well to train a group of radical fringe loonies in art of bomb making, sabotage and what not.

And once the war ended, these radicalised groups who were already loonies now had the training of some of the best bomb making and sabotage techniques available. It took another 10 years and the 9/11 attacks for the US and later the terror bombings in Saudi Arabia for both of these countries to start de-radicalisation and counter-terrorism efforts. But while the Saudis have learnt their lesson and are slowly moving towards de-radicalisation and cracking down on terrorists, Pakistan still has not done so.

So while the US and Saudi intelligence work closely to infiltrate and stop terrorists attacks, the Pakistanis refuse even to prosecute Hafiz Saeed.

Now that we have sorted out the ridiculous notion of US made F-16 being used by terrorists. lets look at your assetion that US is not to be trusted because it sells military equipment to those who pay for it.
The US sells military equiment to those who pay for it. If India pays twice what the Saudis pay, the US will be more than happy to sell it to India. It was the MoD in India that decided against buying US jets. And with the recent defense pact Antony signed on his visit to KSA, we might be getting the Saudis to invest or buy from us too which would give a boost to our defense industry just as their purchases has kept the US defense industry going strong for the last 3-4 decades.
The US is an important partner for India and there should be no reason to expect that US will provide American tech. to terrorists either directly or indirectly. That is more like a conspiracy theory to be honest.
muslims are resorting to terrorism because they are capable of nothing else .

terrorism is the weak man's weapon . he uses it because he is not capable of direct invasion .

muslims dont have the technology for direct invasion because they are backward compared to nonmuslim countries and hence they are resorting to terrorism . this i am talking about sunni muslims like wahhabis and taliban and deobandis .

actually they are would-be world conquerors and would-be hitlers . the day they get the technology for direct invasion they will give up terrorism and invade other people's lands and mass murder and mass rape the population .

mark my words.....
 

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^^^ nice so now that you don't have any logical response to my or other posts in this thread you indulge in the easy way out i.e. muslim bashing.

Oh btw, do you know what sunni muslims actually mean? Do you know that Hezbullah is basically a shia organisation? And that Barelvis are Sunni Muslims? On second thoughts, don't think too much and stick your fantasy world. It might be too much for you.
 
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