What wrong has india done to Irk it's Neighbours?

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For the life of me ,I CANNOT understand that why should we have FOUR ENEMIES

Are Three enemies Pakistan; China ; Bangladesh NOT ENOUGH

What was THE need FOR a FOURTH enemy in the SOUTH ie Sri Lanka
They are enemies of your choice not the choice of those south of the Vindhyas.
 
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For the life of me ,I CANNOT understand that why should we have FOUR ENEMIES

Are Three enemies Pakistan; China ; Bangladesh NOT ENOUGH

What was THE need FOR a FOURTH enemy in the SOUTH ie Sri Lanka
Should have thought about that million dollar question in 1983 itself.

And if you can accept China,Pak both nuclear armed powers as your powers and believe you can defeat them what makes you so afraid of SL. ?

Cut down the BS reasons.
 
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They are enemies of your choice not the choice of those south of the Vindhyas.[/QUOTE

If you are implying that North India and North Indians are against Sri Lankan Tamils because they are Tamilians/South Indians
then you ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG

And If SL tamil issue WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A BIG ISSUE OR A REAL issue
Then WHOLE TAMIL NADU would have been UP IN ARMS

SL tamil issue is just a issue for the tamils of Sri Lanka

And what about AP, karnataka and Kerala

Should WHOLE OF SOUTH INDIA be allowed to become the target of CHINESE MISSILES and F 16 JETS
which would have been DEFINITELY BASED in Sri lanka HAD India NOT WITHDRAWN SUPPORT for
Tamil Ealam
 

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They are enemies of your choice not the choice of those south of the Vindhyas.[/QUOTE

If you are implying that North India and North Indians are against Sri Lankan Tamils because they are Tamilians/South Indians
then you ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG

And If SL tamil issue WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A BIG ISSUE OR A REAL issue
Then WHOLE TAMIL NADU would have been UP IN ARMS

SL tamil issue is just a issue for the tamils of Sri Lanka

And what about AP, karnataka and Kerala

Should WHOLE OF SOUTH INDIA be allowed to become the target of CHINESE MISSILES and F 16 JETS
which would have been DEFINITELY BASED in Sri lanka HAD India NOT WITHDRAWN SUPPORT for
Tamil Ealam
How old are you Nema?
I am forced to repost this again_

Look dude, I try learning something from a guy called Oracle. I disagree with him regarding the SL issue but atleast he is brutally honest with his opinion. He does not come up with crap about threat from China or Pakistan regarding the SL issue.
So, you can just go ahead and say that they are not Indian and so you do not care. We are not fools to believe the weird reasons that you give here.
 

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If you are implying that North India and North Indians are against Sri Lankan Tamils because they are Tamilians/South Indians
then you ONE HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG

And If SL tamil issue WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A BIG ISSUE OR A REAL issue
Then WHOLE TAMIL NADU would have been UP IN ARMS

SL tamil issue is just a issue for the tamils of Sri Lanka

And what about AP, karnataka and Kerala

Should WHOLE OF SOUTH INDIA be allowed to become the target of CHINESE MISSILES and F 16 JETS
Sorry to ask, but what is your age ? What makes you think China will risk a war with India for the sake of Lanka ?

We were not up in arms because we did not think only being Tamil is our destiny. We equally respected the Indian part of ourselves.

And WTF do you mean by REAL ISSUE ? You think its all propaganda,buffoon ?

And yeah the Chinese are still there building their port in Hambantota. Be happy to think that you are left without a friend in Lanka because of the stupid policies. The Sinhalese have not forgiven you for your earlier support to LTTE and view you as their enemy and the Tamils will not forgive you for the betrayal later on. Net Profit - A big Zero.
 
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Sorry to ask, but what is your age ? What makes you think China will risk a war with India for the sake of Lanka ?

We were not up in arms because we did not think only being Tamil is our destiny. We equally respected the Indian part of ourselves.

And WTF do you mean by REAL ISSUE ? You think its all propaganda ?
Leave it Karthic, the guy is either a kid or thinks we are fools.
 

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Why do most threads end up discussing the issues of Tamils in SL? :D

For a change, let's discuss Bangladeshis. It's been long I have discussed about them. Oops, this is not the thread.
 

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Nema,please dont divert this thread on the usual track. Enough of the BS reasons and the weird justifications.
 

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Guys perhaps you are NOT AWARE of How DIFFICULT DAYS India has seen in 80s and 90s

USA India relations were so bad that in 1994 they almost came to breaking point on NPT issue

And pakistan And China have been always keen to harm India

In 1989 with Kashmir problem exploding India had to manage Organisation of Islamic Countries also
And the economy was shaky till 1997

In Foreign policy and Geo strategy we need to be PRACTICAL and REALISTIC NOT QUIXOTIC AND EMOTIONAL
 

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Guys perhaps you are NOT AWARE of How DIFFICULT DAYS India has seen in 80s and 90s

USA India relations were so bad that in 1994 they almost came to breaking point on NPT issue

And pakistan And China have been always keen to harm India

In 1989 with Kashmir problem exploding India had to manage Organisation of Islamic Countries also
And the economy was shaky till 1997

In Foreign policy and Geo strategy we need to be PRACTICAL and REALISTIC NOT QUIXOTIC AND EMOTIONAL
The Chinese are still there happily building their naval port in Hambantota. Be content to think that you are left without a friend in Lanka because of the stupid policies. The Sinhalese have not forgiven you for your earlier support to LTTE and view you as their enemy and the Tamils will not forgive you for the betrayal later on.

Net Profit for the supposed practical and realistic approach - A big Zero.

And I am done with this lad.
 

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I am an OLD MAN having seen India come up the hard way ,struggling at every step ,
ENEMIES LURKING every where And economically too extremely weak

When the BIGGEST power USA is your ENEMY you have to TAKE EVERY STEP WISELY
:frusty::frusty:

Just leave it dude. With each passing post you start to sound more and more like the funny guy in the red cap.
 

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Just One US Secretary of state Miss Robin Raphael QUESTIONED INDIA's Accession of kashmir in
1993

The WHOLE of India was TREMBLING with FEAR .we were SO WEAK

It was considered as that the US had COME out in the open against India on Kashmir

Those days we WANTED US / IMF WB aid BUT also HAD TO safegaurd Kashmir and our Nuclear program
 

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Similarly China is also very wary of Korea's clout among the Korean minority inside China. Despite atrocities Indonesians (Muslim majority) committed against Chinese Indonesians China made no interference except verbal condemnation.

Sometimes ethnic 'sentiments' don't go well along with 'national interest'.
That's BS

One of the reasons that CCP gave for attacking Vietnam was the mistreatment of ethnic Chinese (Hao people) by the Vietnamese government. Ofcourse the Viets gave you guys a bloody nose, but thats a different issue.
 
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China ALWAYS had TWO advantages over India

.Member of P 5 in UN security Council
And A Nuclear weapon State RECOGNISED by the NPT and The whole world

These TWO THINGS GAVE China what is KNOWN AS STRATEGIC AUTONOMY
ie do what you like
 

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India's First and perhaps THE FINEST STRATEGIC EXPERT Mr K Subhramanyam was Insulted BY a Chinese
Diplomat saying that " INDIA HAS MISSED the Big power BUS "

When India went Nuclear in 1998 Mr Subhramanyam wrote
India has Finally caught the big power bus

Similarly The Indo US nuclear deal was So strongly opposed by China because India got the Nuclear fuel and reactors and also could keep its N weapons
 

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Tamils
as a cross-border ethnic group SL gvnmt (Sinhala dominated) would see the ethnic conflict as something 'internal' despite Tamils'ethnic /historical affinity with Indian 'compatriots', and LTTE as a separatist / terrorist thorn.

Similarly China is also very wary of Korea's clout among the Korean minority inside China. Despite atrocities Indonesians (Muslim majority) committed against Chinese Indonesians China made no interference except verbal condemnation.

Sometimes ethnic 'sentiments' don't go well along with 'national interest'.
it is true that Sri Lankans have to be wary and weary of their Tamils.

The SL Govt never knows when they will strike and they occupy the North and East!!

and Tamils of SL have proved that they are no pushover unless the total might of the military is unleashed which many feel was a genocide.
 
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My take on this topic:
Pakistan :
It'll be stupid to assume that we can have good relations with Pakis if Kashmir issue is solved. Indo-Pak enmity has very little to do with Kashmir. Sole reason for existence of Pakistan is it's desire to be NON-Indian. That desire to be different from India, free of non-muslims in their midst was their founding principle and has been their guiding policy ever since.. Lots of influential people in Indian and world affairs have stressed this point by saying that even if India serves Kashmir on a platter to Pakistan, it'll still stay an enemy and find numerous other reasons to pick up fight. There is nothing except massive social re-engineering or complete purification by fire that will solve this problem. Winning hearts and minds is just bullshit. India is under no obligation to appease those terrorists. We've done more than enough in 1947, 1971 and 1999 and these duplicitous asses have repeatedly stabbed us in back

Myanmar:
I wish India to get off its moral high horse and engage it's military junta instead of harping on democracy movement. Did lack of democracy stop US or any other country from dealing with China ? It's all about mutual interests. Thankfully wisdom has dawned a little on planners and military rulers are being engaged. Need to counter Chinese influence in that country fast


Nepal
Blaming recent reverses on support to monarchy is kind of short-sighted, Nepali public was not against monarchy until that idiot prince went crazy. Advent of democracy in a society unprepared for it was predictably chaotic and China took advantage by propping up Maoists. India should have actively supported anti-maoists instead of dwiddling thumbs.

Sri Lanka
Lets just keep in mind that Sinhalese majority hasn't been a great ally of India. They've repeatedly needled India by supporting Pakis and Chinese since 1960s and 70s for their own petty gains. Tamil problem blew up on their faces mostly due to their own short-sighted policies.


Bangladesh
Blaming India for lukewarm ties with Paki propped puppets who assassinated Mujibur is laughable. Doing so would have alienated all Bangladeshis who supported Mujibur. All of anti-India sentiment there is due Islamic fanaticism stoked on by Pakis. . Current warming up of ties between the two countries supports my assertion. .



Bhutan
It's been a good ride till now. Hope it stays sam way. Bhutan going Sikkim's way is a distinct possibility.
 

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I don't care what people in Tamilnadu think about Sri Lanka, I won't even dispute it, sentiments of our people is more important that good relations with Sri Lanka. We cannot bypass our own people in Tamilnadu to have excellent ties with Sri Lanka. I have talked to Sinhalese people, they are extremely racist and look down upon us, thanks to the version of history taught in their schools.

Sri Lanka fired the first shot when it sided with USA and Pakistan during conflicts against India. Being a small country they will always be scared of "Indian Hegemony". Our concern must not be buying total peace and brotherhood, our efforts must be directed towards securing Indian interest in the nation, by hook or by crook. If we cannot make them to love us, we must try harder and let us make them respect our power and resolve.
 

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