We have inadequate air defense to stop chinese airdropped divisions.

[tony4562]

There is no evidence to support that India has ever acquired S-300. S-300 for sure has always been available to India, but for whatever reasons India has never bought any, so today there is no S-300 in India's arsenal.

Someone procued a picture showing a purported IA/IAF S-300 launcher a while ago, but it tuned out to be nothing more than a shore-based SS-N-2 anti-ship missile system.

 

[maomao]

There is no evidence to support that India has ever acquired S-300. S-300 for sure has always been available to India, but for whatever reasons India has never bought any, so today there is no S-300 in India's arsenal.

Someone procued a picture showing a purported IA/IAF S-300 launcher a while ago, but it tuned out to be nothing more than a shore-based SS-N-2 anti-ship missile system.

How can you say with certainty that India does not have S-300, however, believe in all the propaganda produced by CCP about the ability of reverse engineered copies??

 

[Parthy]

Akash is the best available option if we consider cheap, mass induction with effective technology. It has an intercepting range of 30 Km, is easy to produce and is accurate to pinpoint. If we can use the advantage of its low cost, we can practically cover entire northeast and east borders with it like a blanket. Remember, PLAAF believes in quantity and hence having an overwhelming number of short range SAMs would simply make PLAAF bombers and fighters think twice.

Now naturally since PLAAF's H-6 and J-11s won't be carrying nuclear bombs, I think 30 KM range is fine sufficient for interception which will have little or no impact from our border. Better than needlessly acquiring excess SPYDERs that are expensive and pointless to attack waves of medium tech fighters or even high tech ones. Akash is quality+quantity and that's the strategy we need with PLAAF. If IAF and IA can get over their obsession of foreign maal, I think DRDO can simple make extend Akash's range through slight modifications to as far as 100 KM away.

But commission-obsessed corrupt babus won't let indigenous programmes succeed to keep their foreign masters happy.

What if they're trying to take out these SAM sites with BVR A-G missiles?? "Tear the blanket and then intrude!!" Any option to overcome this ??

 

[Parthy]

90% of Chinese economy is confined to 5% of their Eastern seaboard,India has the ability to wipe that out.

Taking out and wiping Chinese aggression and its vital asset is not a big task for our defence.. Think of the consequences of the full pledged war between China-India...

China will not stop until it gets some benefit out of the war.. India will not continue to defend our border and territories.. soon we will get into to offensive poster either in Aksai-chin or in tibet region.. Its always better to attack the enemy to defend yourself...

At the end, both the countries economy will be fully wiped-out.... It will take another 3 decades for both of them to re-construct the growth it has currently..

out of this crisis - Not to forget INTELLIGENT POLITICIANS we have who 'll fill their acc's in foreign national banks.... :angry_3:

 

[tony4562]

PLAAF/PLANAF together operate around 180 JH-7( and a new regiment around 24 aircrafts is added each year) it has far better chance of making an appearance in a hyperthetical war between China and India than the increasingly obsolete H6 which China only has around 100.

 

[SHASH2K2]

What if they're trying to take out these SAM sites with BVR A-G missiles?? "Tear the blanket and then intrude!!" Any option to overcome this ??

Barring a few systems almost all Air defence systems are on mobile platform and keeps on changing its position.SO taking out these systems is not an easy task.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Do you think that chinese are fool enough that they will airdrop a division without any solid strategy and land forces support? If china decide to airdrop its troops then definitely it would be with possibility to link up with nearest chinese land forces.

Going to your question which started this thread..

IA need extensive system of SAM & AAA over NE and North India..
IA & IAF both have enough strength to repel any Air attack by PLAAF..

Their are some places mostly on fronts, which are very isolated and no roads to connect them & AD and Arty is no or little..
This are some of the strategic locations India have and they are perfect for PLA air drop.

Again we need to increase our efforts on infrastrucher over NE also North Kashmir..

 

[tony4562]

There is no official documents from either India or Russia mentioning the sale of S-300, and there are no images either, not even a satellite image showing a potential S-300 launch site. And there is no evidence about existence of any units in India operating S-300.

Trust me S-300 is not stealth bomber or nuclear submarine, there is no need to cover it up. China didn't find it necessary to cover up its S-300 purchases, I doubt India would.

 

[SHASH2K2]

There is no official documents from either India or Russia mentioning the sale of S-300, and there are no images either, not even a satellite image showing a potential S-300 launch site. And there is no evidence about existence of any units in India operating S-300.

Trust me S-300 is not stealth bomber or nuclear submarine, there is no need to cover it up. China didn't find it necessary to cover up its S-300 purchases, I doubt India would.

whether we have s300 or not is irrelevant here . we are discussing NE here and we donot have any S300 deployed there even if we have any.

 

[hit&run]

Nepal, Burma and Bangladesh will be involved/considered in that case (i will try to detail more on this).
The Hump.
The time window for such operation, harsh and violent winds etc.
Where they will land for maximum advantage.
InA corps be waiting for them. III, IV, XXXIII eastern sector and XIV Northern Sector

 

[captonjohn]

All claims made by china about their army and equipment may be 50% true. Hype is given by them like our media giving hype about every small thing they see everywere. Why do some guys here feel or even believe that IA and IAF have inferior equipment than the PLA and PLAAF. Have you ever tested them face to face. Why do some guys degrade the IA and IAF by saying that we have been equiped very poorly when compared to the chinese.... It is b'cos of these very inteligent guys we think that IA and IAF are really ill equiped than the chinese. It is not necessary to show what we have and what we can do. It is at the time of war that some new equipment emerge, which are being used by IA and IAF and also our enimies.

sesha,
Nobody is degrading IA and IAF's capability but it doesn't mean that we should avoid seeing any military threat coming from any side for India. Specially when you have a neighbor who has world's largest army and continuously violating your airspace and border definitely raising many questions for India. So instead of getting annoyed we just need to focus on Indian defense status along our borders so that we can counter any such move successfully. See china has a long history of sudden aggression and has many secrets in his army, of course it can't win india but it can give a quick blow and to stop such blow we need to be prepared.

Again be prepared for worse is the only way to prevent it because you don't know what would be next move of enemy.

 

[chex3009]

Pakistan won't lose this kind of opportunity to fiddle with India if China does actually carry out any adventure on the Eastern Front.

It would not only be an Eastern Front but a well designed and well calculated Two-way Thrust from both East and West so as to initially confuse our Armed forces to design any anti-thrust moves while the chinese can aggressively cover-up ground on the Eastern Front while we are thinking of two-front war.

 

[captonjohn]

Pakistan won't lose this kind of opportunity to fiddle with India if China does actually carry out any adventure on the Eastern Front.

It would not only be an Eastern Front but a well designed and well calculated Two-way Thrust from both East and West so as to initially confuse our Armed forces to design any anti-thrust moves while the chinese can aggressively cover-up ground on the Eastern Front while we are thinking of two-front war.

Exactly! Pakistan won't lose this golden change to get Kashmir but I think India have to fight a three front war that is in NE region with china, in west with Pakistan and in Kashmir & POK with Pak-China axis. Now tell me is Indian forces are 100% prepared to take out enemy in all front?

 

[Parthy]

Everybody knows that if China engages with India on NE sector, Paki will not watch the scene with folded hands.. Surely they'll take chances through siachein and Azad kashmir...

Why to wait for things to happen and making it too worse to handle..

Its not a world for ahmisa where you do dandi/fasting and make things work... You should pull it by force... Noway we're getting into peace resolution with Pakistan..

If Kashmir is presumed to be India, then why to watch Pakistan occupying half of it and ceding some part to China to keep them engaged.. Declare war and flush them out of Kashmir valley and then build infrastructure over the border shared with China...

Why should a country like India which has vast population to support any economic crisis and depletion??? Then what is the point in spending millions to a standing defence? Just to show-case that we have the second-largest army in the world?? Everything should be served with a cause!!

Go ahead and flush bloody Paki's out of Kashmir soil and show to China what India is capable in war in this modern era!! :emot154:

 

[SHASH2K2]

Exactly! Pakistan won't lose this golden change to get Kashmir but I think India have to fight a three front war that is in NE region with china, in west with Pakistan and in Kashmir & POK with Pak-China axis. Now tell me is Indian forces are 100% prepared to take out enemy in all front?

Can you please elaborate the Three front war in NE .

 

[chex3009]

Everybody knows that if China engages with India on NE sector, Paki will not watch the scene with folded hands.. Surely they'll take chances through siachein and Azad kashmir...

Why to wait for things to happen and making it too worse to handle..

Its not a world for ahmisa where you do dandi/fasting and make things work... You should pull it by force... Noway we're getting into peace resolution with Pakistan..

If Kashmir is presumed to be India, then why to watch Pakistan occupying half of it and ceding some part to China to keep them engaged.. Declare war and flush them out of Kashmir valley and then build infrastructure over the border shared with China...

Why should a country like India which has vast population to support any economic crisis and depletion??? Then what is the point in spending millions to a standing defence? Just to show-case that we have the second-largest army in the world?? Everything should be served with a cause!!

Go ahead and flush bloody Paki's out of Kashmir soil and show to China what India is capable in war in this modern era!! :emot154:

As Pakistan has always said, that any attack on the PoK will be considered an attack on Pakistan and "we will act decisively". Thats the only reason that during kargil our political heads decided not to cross LoC at any point of time, and you think our babus have got balls today to send our special forces or via some surgical strikes we would be able to carry out such a move and China sitting pretty on the border? No way, buddy there are much larger implications than simply saying just flush out those Pakistanis from PoK. I may agree that our armed forces are capable of carrying such attack but do our politicians have it in them to call this move???? I doubt it.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

How exactly will they do that? Don't go on assumptions. In 62 also they declared ceasefire as their supplies collapsed. Yes this is not 62 but then the indian forces too are also not stuck in 62.

I agree they could not maintain supply lines in their war with Vietnam and they have many more divisions on the Eastern side.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Another question nobody has answered is how will they hold any territorial gains?? It will tie up much more resources than people realize.

 

[bharadwaj]

They need to first gain territory in order to hold it.(not being overconfident but they have inadequate bases to mount a full scale assault)The Chinese would most probably prefer P****** us off using Pak as cover.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

They need to first gain territory in order to hold it.(not being overconfident but they have inadequate bases to mount a full scale assault)The Chinese would most probably prefer P****** us off using Pak as cover.

They have tried that atleast twice before in 2 wars to interfere and backed out so chances of them succeeding now are even worst.