Discussion in 'Defence & Strategic Issues' started by jamwal, Sep 7, 2011.
reallity is stranger than fiction ,u cannot denay this.
Jai Ho , Jamwalji .
carry on ...want to see more ,but it will be better if u added a air battle on the sky between and plaf and iaf ,otherwise it is flawless.
Jamwal i think you forgot that chinese have ASAT, they can take down our satellites and cripple our communication system, isnt it. Anyways keep posting.
6th November 2012
India and China have both agreed to a ceasefire to the conflict which was threatening to put the world on brink of a nuclear war. The news has come as a major relief to the world as the battles between two nuclear armed rivals started to escalate and spread to multiple fronts. Both nations have agreed to cease hostilities and hold immediate negotiations to resolve their disputes. A Chinese delegation will land in New Delhi within next few hours to this effect.
As many of our viewers already know, India had accused China of hatching a conspiracy which culminated with two nuclear missiles being launched from Pakistan, one of which killed more than 25000 people in Rajasthan. Other missile targeted towards Mumbai was intercepted and destroyed in midair by Indian home grown missile defence system.
In retaliation, India had launched a massive nuclear and conventional weapons based attack on Pakistan which all but wiped out Pakistan from world map, causing millions of causalities. Hours after the attack, Indian military had captured a Chinese nuclear submarine just a few KM south of Gwadar port and two Chinese nuclear tipped ICBMs from a tunnel near Gilgit from Pakistan controlled part of J&K. Based upon the evidence collected, India had accused one senior member of CPC identified as Admiral (Retd) Xedong of masterminding the nuclear attack on Indian soil. China had first rejected Indian demands of handing over Admiral Xedong and seven other CPC and PLA officers and put Admiral Xedong in custody. Xedong was considered by many to be one of the most likely candidates for the post of Chinese President after Peng's terms got over next year in August. Massive riots had broken out in many Chinese cities after news of Xedong's death in custody had leaked out.
Two days after the incident, advancing Indian forces in Pak occupied Kashmir were involved in a conflict with Chinese forces near Shaksgam valley. The small fire fight quickly escalated in to something much worse as China launched more than a dozen cruise missiles at Indian bases in J&K, causing serious damage to Leh airfield. In retaliation, India attacked dozens of Chinese bases in Aksai Chin and Tibet. Although, both sides are tight lipped about it right now, some reports suggest that India used at least two nuclear tipped missiles in the attack.
Chinese forces in the area, which were already battling resurgent Tibetan and Uighur rebels, were unable to withstand the subsequent blitzkrieg of Indian air and ground attack and were forced to abandon their positions in Shaksgam Valley and Aksai Chin.
According to experts, Chinese forces were stretched too thin due to their ongoing operations against domestic insurgency which had disrupted their supply lines in the remote and rough terrain. Additionally, Chinese government had came under immense international pressure after another conflict with Taiwan and USA seemed imminent brought upon by downing of Taiwanese F-16 fighter plane by a Chinese warship. After the incident USA had dispatched two of its CBGs to help Taiwan defend itself against any further Chinese aggression.
Although no official confirmation has come in yet, it's believed that Indian, Chinese and US submarines were involved in a shooting match east of Andaman Islands which resulted in sinking of at least one Chinese submarine.
All of this has seemed to helped Indian forces in their war with China as they overran Chinese defences in Shaksgam Valley and parts of Aksai Chin, before their advance slowed down due to pressure on their supply lines and fierce Chinese resistance. Before the declaration of ceasefire, Indian forces in Aksai Chin had penetrated up to 110 km in some sectors
Right now, it's unclear whether India will hand over the captured territory back to China. Although China has agreed to Indian claim on Pakistan controlled part of J&K, both parties remained tight lipped over the Chinese controlled areas. It's quite likely that India will drive a hard bargain with China over it and probably try to get a favourable agreement on long standing border disputes. Considering that Indians have a fully weaponised Chinese nuclear submarine and crew along with at least 350 Chinese soldiers and civilians in their custody, it seems that they will have an upper hand during the negotiations. Also under present circumstances, world opinion seems more or less to be on Indian side. Though it remains to be seen how it'll affect the negotiations.
13th November 2012
DM finished reading the thick 100+ page file that contained bulk of agreements signed between India and China, closed his eyes and leaned back on his chair. He had been working like a mule for last two weeks and it was the first moment in many days when he felt that he could relax. Even then, he couldn't help but think about the deal that was about to be finalised with Chinese. Initially, Chinese negotiations team was really stubborn and inflexible, but Indians were quite a match for them and had succeeded in getting a favourable agreement after mostly acrimonious talks that lasted almost a week. But owing to unprecedented extraordinary circumstances, it was finalized in a record time.
As was expected, the talks had started in a very hostile environment. Chinese armed forces had suffered horrendous losses without much to show for it. Additionally, they had been forced to cede ground to a supposedly numerically and technically inferior enemy. Their humiliation was made even worse by the capture of two nuclear missiles along with 100s of soldiers and the capture of an intact nuclear submarine followed by sinking of another two even before the hostilities had begun. Unlike the conflict in J&K-Tibet area that followed later, these incidents had been paraded, humiliating China, by Indians on world stage. PLA officers which formed the bulk of the Chinese negotiations team were none too happy for that. They had shown their displeasure over what was termed as â€œlack of maturity and foresight" by India, which was promptly rebutted by their Indian counterparts.
As was expected, Chinese had brought up every outstanding issue including the status of Tibetan rebels, Arunachal Pradesh, Aksai Chin etc., most of which had little to do with the task at hand. These tactics were meant to throw Indians off the guard but the Indians too had good experience in such matters and the negotiations had dragged on for days before USA and Russia had put in all of their resources forcing the two belligerent nations to hammer out a compromise. Chinese were loathe to admit that India had successfully used tactical nuclear weapons on four of their bases and had vigorously denied all such reports. India on its part maintained a stony silence. But within days of the attack, proof to this effect had been released in public domain. There was much brouhaha in the usual circles, bringing even more pressure to get an effective ceasefire.
The Chinese, who had agreed to the Indian claim on Pakistan occupied part of J&K earlier, but baulked and nearly walked out when Indians staked their claim on Shaksgam Valley and Aksai Chin. Indians on their part pointed out that Shaksgam valley was more or less under Indian control and so was almost 40% of Aksai Chin. Indian offensive had been halted just a few 10s of KMs from the vital Chinese National Highway 219. But Chinese in spite of putting in best of their efforts had been unable to push back Indians from any front except a couple.
After much heated and prolonged talks, Chinese had agreed to hand over control of Shaksgam Valley to India, in exchange of Indian pull back in Aksai Chin which was hotly contested by Indians leading to another deadlock. This was broken off after much haggling and heart burn on both sides.
After many such deadlocks, gists of some important agreements were:
1) All of J&K except Aksai Chin under Indian control. All of Pakistan occupied J&K and Shaksgam Valley under sovereign Indian control accompanied by removal of all Chinese personnel from these areas.
2) India withdraws forces from Aksai Chin back to their previous positions. Indian team spent longest amount of time on this as the territorial gains made in the sector was substantial. . Indians agreed to only a partial withdraw and refused to abandon their new and advantageous positions. The issue was not solved to satisfaction of either of the parties and postponed for future talks.
3) Assurance by both nations over non-interference in each other's internal conflicts. In nutshell, all Indian support to Tibetan rebels inside China ceases. Similarly, China stops supporting Naxals and separatist groups in north-east India.
4) In spite of their best efforts, Indians were unable to get anything agreed upon Chinese claims on Arunachal Pradesh. The matter too was left undecided pending further discussions.
5) Unconditional release of all the prisoners from both sides. Considering that Chinese formed almost the entire group, they were rather keen on it and willing to get it over with as soon as possible. The issue of two nuclear missiles and submarine was contested by India as winner's right to the war trophy. India later agreed to hand over the weapon systems back to China (after suitable investigations).
6) Chinese delegation was put under considerable pressure by Indians over the issue of extradition and trial of Chinese personnel responsible for nuclear attack on India. India never had any kind of extradition treaty with China and they used this loophole to wriggle free. Only consolation available to India were assurances "set in stone" that the guilty people will be tried and punished under international observation
After a while DM opened his eyes and called for Defence Secretary Pillai. He was one of the most senior members from the Indian negotiations team and had drafted a significant part of the recently signed agreement himself. DM had picked up the file again and was leafing through the pages when he entered. Pillai greeted the minister and waited for him to speak. DM put the file down and said, â€œâ€œWell Pillai jeep. Seems like we haven't done a really bad job after all.â€
"Not the best, but could've done worse. Got most of what we wanted in J&K, but couldn't get anything done on Arunachal and extradition. A mixed bag if you ask me."
DM nodded, â€œNobody ever gets everything. They refuse to handover those criminals; we refuse to go back from Aksai Chin."
Pillai looked at the file on table and said, "That's what is troubling me. Don't you think that it'll provoke them in to engaging even more mischief than usual?"
DM stood up and walked to the window of his office. After staring outside for a while, he turned and faced DS, "We've been dealing with their mischief for decades now. One time we stood up to their bullying, they back down like a whipped dog. After what we've gone through, I'm not afraid of anything. If they have any problem with our attitude, too bad mate. But that's how things are going to be from now on. "
A surprised grin formed on Pillai's face as he heard somewhat undiplomatic words coming out of possible Prime Minister of India. "So, we're signing it right now?â€
DM nodded, â€œYes. No point in delaying it further. I also need you to prepare a press release and a speech for the press conference. I'll need you besides me there. "
"Yes sir." Pillai stood up to take his leave.
3 February 2013
BNT News Release
Emergency workers and rescuers have found no trace of General Kong and retired CPC member An Wang, after the yacht they were sailing in disappeared in South China Sea, just a few KM away from coastal city of Shantou. Till now, only parts of the yacht have been discovered floating just a few km from the area where it was last reported to be thirty six hours before. It had lost contact with mainland and other ships in middle of the night during a low intensity rain storm.
Search for the yacht and its occupants are still going on. According to one rescue worker, it's nearly impossible for a yacht of that size to disappear just like that without any one seeing it at least once. Each passing moment with no trace of survivors makes any chance of their survival extremely bleak.
Although it was never declared publicly, these two were some of the senior most Chinese officials forced to resign from their posts over the role they had allegedly played in incidents that had lead to a nuclear conflict with India.
6th February 2013
Xinhua News Agency
Three PLA personnel lost their lives in a tragic road accident in Dagze. A small town near Lhasa. Dead included General Chan, his aide Major Kong and driver Corporal Fai. According to witnesses, Corporal Fai lost control of the car they were traveling in while negotiating a sharp turn and hit a road barrier. The car turned turtle on hitting the barrier and rolled down the slope to the gorge below killing all its occupants on the spot. Their bodies have been recovered and sent to their families for last rites.
General Chang just had just assumed command of PLA's Dagze supply base and was on a familiarisation tour when the mishap occurred.
8th February 2013
New Delhi, India
NSA chief Angad entered the office of India's newest PM and handed him a file, "Last night, Chinese forces again shelled some of our posts in Aksai Chin. No causalities, but seems like that they are making a routine of it."
"I suppose, some people in China are getting scared." PM Shivendra smiled and started browsing through the file. "What is going on with our Tibetan friends?â€
"They're getting restless now. They say that they've been lying low for long enough. I think they are right. They've had ample time to train, regroup and gather supplies."
PM nodded, "I know. Tell them to wait just a little bit more. Also send my personal thanks for their help in our little mission in Dagze. They deserve whatever we can offer them."
Angad nodded his head in agreement and stood up to leave. Apparently, war was not over yet.
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PM Shivendra, i like that.
it was a good read, enjoyed thoroughly.
thanks jamwal for keeping us all so engrossed for all these days.
i end is really unusual,but its a good fiction.
if tibet would have been freed i would have much happy
Like Jamwalji quite a few members have put up excellent ocntributions on fictional war scenarios on BRF. I also recommend reading the contributions of Vivek Ahuja and Singha on BR. They include some of the best written air battle scenarios between IAF and PLAAF and IAF and PAF.
I don't believe that Chinese ASAT is a credible weapon yet. I'll put it in same league as their anti-aircraft carrier ballistic missile. Even India and US have the same or better capability than Chinese, Russia wouldn't be far behind either.
Thanks. It's a not too unproductive way to pass time
Maybe it'll be free. Who knows.
I was actually inspired by the story written by Vivek_Ahuja. He writes really credible scenarios but unfortunately never finished. A keen observer might find some similarities including Defence Minister character.He writes with much better level of detail and flair of writing.
jamwal ji i was a regler visitor to the Mili scenarios thread at BR and Read all the scenarios including all of yours as well I liked Both Shanker and vickys scenarios you guys had a g8 thread there but alas
Enchanting so far!
personally i dont think that we can blackmail china regarding nuclear attack,they can just wipe out us in matter of hours.
anyway i liked it and appreciate your effort thanks.
I don't think that Chinese can do that so easily
in your scenario they can easily, because our arihand is empty after the strike on pak and we don't have anything left for a second strike.
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