VSTOL JOCKEY'S Light Stealth Figther (LSA) First Images and Details

[lcafanboy]

VSTOL JOCKEY from IDF who claims to be ex naval fighter pilot who claims to have designed a light stealth fighter has posted images and details of his so called "LIGHT STEALTH FIGHTER" or LSA.

Here are some of the images and details he shared and I am cross posting his posts. He claims he is now showing as MOD has almost rejected his offer and so he is now sharing details and wants support to change MOD stance:

"""" I am showing you guys the slightly old design which is very close to the final design. The final design has much better plan form alignment of rudders and intakes. This design is pretty close to the final design but not the actual design.
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The next view,
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The twin engine design,
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The final designs for both single and twin engine LSA are far more refined and have far superior features.
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A comparison of LSA with HF-24 for reference.
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This is how LSA stacks up against F-35C and you can make out that LSA has better stealth shaping compared to either F-35 or AMCA.
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[lcafanboy]

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Depicted above is the effect of bank angle on a stealth aircraft while turning. A broader bottom of a stealth aircraft also creates flat plate like reflections on a radar screen while turning depending on the bank angle. A broader bottom will give more reflections and detection range will increase. AMCA is nearly 2m broad at its bottom compared to 90 cms of LSA. The combination of thin bottom with 45* fuselage sides will ensure that LSA fuselage bottom and the wing-fuselage combination do not become corner reflectors. AMCA with 20* side angles will add to these reflections. No aircraft in the world has 100% stealth based on just shaping. We need a combination of shaping, small size, active RF cancellation and absorbent materials. Small size & internal weapons bays offer much higher level of stealth. In nature all Predators are small in size, have outstanding agility, ability to hunt at night, merge with surroundings due to their camouflage and have extremely strong jaws with pointed teeth. So, any interceptor aircraft must follow these rules to be able to fight, kill and survive. I kept these very principles in mind while designing LSA.

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Depicted above is the effect of fuselage side angle on the detection range of a stealth fighter. These depictions are based on F-35 JSF of USAF. LSA has better stealth compared to AMCA. A Flying wing does not have such fuselage side angle and are considered the best shapes for stealth. AMCA has this side angle as just about 20* compared to 45* for LSA and therefore AMCA will be detected from longer distances at any height it flies compared to LSA. Once and aircraft is within the range where the fuselage sides create flat plate reflections, going closer to the radar will multiply these reflections as the fuselage and wing start acting as corner reflector and concentrate the radar reflections towards the radar. As a result AMCA will have to fly longer routes to its target to zig-zag thru enemy defences which will reduce its penetration range in enemy territory while LSA will be able to fly more direct routes to the target and hit deeper in enemy territory. AMCA will have to stay at least 18 Nautical miles away from all long range and medium range radars and SAMs while flying at 36K feet to avoid detection while this range reduces to just 8 nautical miles for LSA due to its side fuselage angle of 45*. This shorter detection range for LSA will make it better suited for SEAD/DEAD operations compared to AMCA.

AMCA has undergone wind tunnel testing but its engine of choice is not available. LSA has undergone very limited CFD analysis and its bulkhead designs are also ready with engine of choice readily available. So how you compare the two? Which is closer for prototype development-LSA or AMCA?
Shown below are the bulkhead designs for LSA. I have hidden the bulkhead design for weapon bays as that will give out the most outstanding feature of this design. But we are ready to go if MOD gives us clearance.
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I asked DRDO for the coordinates of HF-24 air foil. They kept quite. I needed an air foil to generate data thru CFD analysis. Instead ruing my luck, I went ahead and designed my own 5% t/c, 0.5% camber and 35% maximum point of thickness air foil based on research published by NASA about supercritical air foils. And what I designed is shown below. This air foil at zero alpha and Mach-1 has shortest transonic regime as the shock waves of top surface and bottom surface are positioned at the rear most tip. This is the type of air foil an aircraft capable of super cruise needs. I have managed to shrink the transonic regime from 0.8-1.2Mach to just about 0.9-1Mach. This means that LSA will not need reheat to go thru sound barrier due to its very short transonic regime.

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Shown below are the 12 alpha Mach-1 contours of the same air foil. Any aerodynamics engineer who sees these will go mad for the outstanding quality of this air foil.
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Shock cones.
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As for fuel
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[lcafanboy]

Mach-2.25 may seem too much for you but with movable biconic centrebody, this speed will easily be exceeded. The sweepback of LSA is 50*. Do your maths.
HF-24 with a length of 15.87m and four internally mounted 30mm DEFA cannons weighed only 6180kgs. LSA is just 13.75m long.
With so much of excess thrust and 3D TVC, I can get agility superior to F-22. The ITR/STR of LSA have been calculated for ISA+25*C conditions. If I calculate it for air density value for ISA, sea level, It will hit same values as F-22.
2xBVRAAMs-Meteor/K-77M in main bay, 2xBVRAAMs-Meteor/K77M in lower side bays, 2xWVRAAMs-ASRAAM on upper side bays and 2xASRAAM on wingtips. LSA will be the only stealth aircraft with Snap-Shoot capability which is a must to win battles between 5th Gen Fighters.
Internal fuel of LSA is 3.5 tons with a very high fuel fraction but why it outranges Rafale is due to very low drag as it carries most of its missiles in internal weapon bays. Low drag means less thrust needed which means higher range.

Mig-21 Bison has an empty weight of 5860kgs and that aircraft is made of 100% metal structure that too in typical Russian style. Its engine weighs 1210kgs compared to 1100 kgs for EJ-230. Do your own estimation regarding the weight of LSA. The fuselage length of Mig-21 Bison is 13.46m with nose cone extended full forward while the fuselage length of LSA is 13.5m.

firstly I am looking for a 9G airframe limit at 10 tons weight. This itself will help reduce the weight a lot. Please tell me one aircraft which with Drop tanks and bombload pulls 9G? Even Rafale is limited to 9G with A2A load. But with D/Ts or bombs attached, it is limited to just 5.5G.
LSA has a max fuselage height of 1.55m and that makes it as slim as Mig-21. It is difficult for you to imagine this weight for LSA but even if you compare it with Rafale which has 9.5tons of empty weight with two engines of 900kgs each and 10.8m wingspan with 15m length, you will realise that 5.75 tons for LSA is very easily achievable. Just remember that LSA will have full glass cockpit, OBOGS, Al-Li airframe members, EHSA driven primary flight controls with power-by-wire FCS. LSA with conventional analogue cockpit, oxygen cylinder, conventional boosted primary flight control system will weigh about 500kgs more than the LSA which I have in mind.

I have done a detailed study of single engine fighters being offered to India and I am posting the comparison below. I really do not know why and how can anyone consider F-16Blk70 as an option for India. F-16Blk70 is the worst that can happen to India. This aircraft fails even when compared to LCA Mk1A. F-16Blk70 can be easily compared to another dud called LCA MK2

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• The main weapons bay is 4.25m long, 57.5cms deep and 1.1m wide. The main bay is capable of carrying 2xK77M or 2xAstra or 2xHarpoons or 2xKH35UE or 2x1000lb bombs or 8xSPICE250 and every weapon designed for Pak-Fa.
• Large internal weapons bay of LSA can be adopted to carry multiple payloads for specialist missions like F-18SH Growler for exclusive EW/Recce role and can be converted to carry directed energy weapons of the 6th Gen fighters in future.
• Each side bay can carry one 1xK-77M/Astra and 1xK-74M2/ASRAAM. The Lower side bays are 3.8m long while the upper side bay is 3.2m long and their combined width is 70cms and depth is 45cms.
• The outstanding wing-body blending will add a large part of overall lift besides drastically reducing the Interference drag. LSA has the best wing-body blending compared to any other aircraft of similar nature anywhere in the world and it is nearly as good as a flying wing in mid fuselage section.

LSA is designed to have same agility as that of F-22 but will have 3D TVC. ASRAAMs have the least RCS of any AAM in the world. In SEAD/DEAD role, the wingtip missiles will not be carried.""""

Above are all his post he claims LSA will weigh just 5750kgs, carry 3.5tons of fuel giving huge fuel fraction, and he will use EJ230 with 3d vector thrusting in single engine configuration or improved HAL HTF 35 engine with 57knx2 in twin engine configuration. I know it is not convincing how a person can design a fighter single handedly where entire ADA DRDO labs failed but it does look convincing. I know some members did post that "woh chutiya bana rah hai" but still can we discuss for the sake of it.

 

[Anirbann Datta]

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[airtel]

bhai wo lambi Lambhi fenk raha hai bas .....................there is nothing Like LSA .


moderators should close this thread .

@pmaitra @Sakal Gharelu Ustad @Kunal Biswas
@tarunraju

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

Interesting. Sir ji can you re-post the images. For some reason I cannot see them.

 

[LordOfTheUnderworlds]

Don't tell me this shit is real. If something like this really happen he will be a big guy. And DFI people had thrown him out of forum for trolling

 

[lcafanboy]

bhai wo lambi Lambhi fenk raha hai bas .....................there is nothing Like LSA .


moderators should close this thread .

@pmaitra @Sakal Gharelu Ustad @Kunal Biswas
@tarunraju

Bhai isi liye to thread create kiya hai so we can discuss it and know if he is correct or phek raha hai. The best way to do is discuss it and expose it. I am also at my wits end as to how he has designed a stealth fighter alone whereas sophisticated ADA DRDO labs with qualified aerospace scientists and engineers are struggling to design one and struggling to finish even Tejas.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

So, only Chinese don't copy paste.:biggrin2:

CAC/PAC FC-1 Xiaolong/JF-17 Thunder

VSTOL JOCKEY LSA
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Don't tell me this shit is real. If something like this really happen he will be a big guy. And DFI people had thrown him out of forum for trolling

It's real.

 

[lcafanboy]

So, only Chinese don't copy paste.:biggrin2:

CAC/PAC FC-1 Xiaolong/JF-17 Thunder

VSTOL JOCKEY LSA
http://*****************/attachments/upload_2017-1-4_12-28-6-png.3249/

It's real.

Then it should be easy for Chinese to make copy of LSA and give it to porkistan and they can paint it green and they can rename it STEALTH JF-18 or 19. And further they can even claim that India copied LSA from JF-17. :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

 

[airtel]

Then it should be easy for Chinese to make copy of LSA and give it to porkistan and they can paint it green and they can rename it STEALTH JF-18 or 19. And further they can even claim that India copied LSA from JF-17. :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

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[airtel]

If You read his comments then you will get many such information which are factually wrong ...................He made up all these designs & data himself ............without any technical knowledge ............no test , no funding , no approval .

he is a Fanboy who is visiting many defence forums & created an imaginary fighter plane after reading to much .


he dont even know the basic requirements of a 5th Gen. Fighter .

 

[Indx TechStyle]

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If You read his comments then you will get many such information which are factually wrong ...................He made up all these designs & data himself ............without any technical knowledge ............no test , no funding , no approval .

he is a Fanboy who is visiting many defence forums & created an imaginary fighter plane after reading to much .


he dont even know the basic requirements of a 5th Gen. Fighter .

All I know that he has worked in a PSU.

 

[SajeevJino]

He is well known to @Adux and @sayareakd sir, If some one brings this to aviation forums like Key publishing, they will tell us what really it is

between @Twinblade Sir What you think @Defcon 1

That @Decklander used that Paki controlled IDF forums attachment facility, thats why its not visible any way could anyone download and re upload some other image hosting website and post it here ..so lets us have a view, what he made using 3D drawing

 

[Indx TechStyle]

could anyone download and re upload some other image hosting website and post it here ..so lets us have a view, what he made using 3D drawing

Hang on for a while, I'm uploading.

 

[AbRaj]

So, only Chinese don't copy paste.:biggrin2:

CAC/PAC FC-1 Xiaolong/JF-17 Thunder

VSTOL JOCKEY LSA
http://*****************/attachments/upload_2017-1-4_12-28-6-png.3249/

It's real.

Both looks similar due to LAREX

 

[Indx TechStyle]

VSTOL JOCKEY from IDF who claims to be ex naval fighter pilot who claims to have designed a light stealth fighter has posted images and details of his so called "LIGHT STEALTH FIGHTER" or LSA.

Here are some of the images and details he shared and I am cross posting his posts. He claims he is now showing as MOD has almost rejected his offer and so he is now sharing details and wants support to change MOD stance:

"""" I am showing you guys the slightly old design which is very close to the final design. The final design has much better plan form alignment of rudders and intakes. This design is pretty close to the final design but not the actual design.

The next view,

The twin engine design,

The final designs for both single and twin engine LSA are far more refined and have far superior features.

A comparison of LSA with HF-24 for reference.

This is how LSA stacks up against F-35C and you can make out that LSA has better stealth shaping compared to either F-35 or AMCA.

 

[AbRaj]

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If You read his comments then you will get many such information which are factually wrong ...................He made up all these designs & data himself ............without any technical knowledge ............no test , no funding , no approval .

he is a Fanboy who is visiting many defence forums & created an imaginary fighter plane after reading to much .


he dont even know the basic requirements of a 5th Gen. Fighter .

All datas are correct and verified from OEM websites

 

[angeldude13]

Don't tell me this shit is real. If something like this really happen he will be a big guy. And DFI people had thrown him out of forum for trolling

He wasn't thrown out, he left. People tried to stop him but he was too pissed off to stay.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

Is that the AMCA, looks similar.