Vladimir Putin accuses US of backing terrorism in Middle East

[Yun Ming]

What population boom? AFAIK , Russia is actually suffering from negative population growth, isn't it? How exactly is Russia going to be a threat in the future? Russia's only importance of now is as a energy supplier with a huge MIC. The erosion of influence of Russia is all but inevitable.

But whether that is good for the world is of course debatable. We don't want USA to concentrate on containing asia instead of being distracted by Russia. That's for sure.

But Russia is not Asian by any measure. They still consider themselves to be Europeans and rightly so.

There is no Russian population boom. Although it is growing. I'm not talking about a direct boom like China's and India's, more so a potential. Russia is unbelievably sparsely populated. There is a lot of room to grow. I don't know about you but I think a lot of Europe's economic decline/stagnation has to do with the fact that they simply can't expand anymore. They are overcorwded.

17th - 21st century belonged to the Whites.In my eyes, sparsely populated Russia with CIS countries is just white-supremacy taking a "break". Put in 2+ billion people there and they'll be at it again.

 

[Mad Indian]

There is no Russian population boom. Although it is growing. I'm not talking about a direct boom like China's and India's, more so a potential. Russia is unbelievably sparsely populated. There is a lot of room to grow. I don't know about you but I think a lot of Europe's economic decline/stagnation has to do with the fact that they simply can't expand anymore. They are overcorwded.

17th - 21st century belonged to the Whites.In my eyes, sparsely populated Russia with CIS countries is just white-supremacy taking a "break". Put in 2+ billion people there and they'll be at it again.

I don't understand how you came to this conclusion/theory that Russia can support 2billion + $! Why do you think India , China and SEA have such a high pop density? Its because of our favorable climate. Russia is sparsely populated because their country is shit to live in as far as climate is concerned.

This won't change magically. So there is no question of Russia + CAS ever hosting 2 Billion+ pop.

21st century is going to be Asian century through and through, and we will take whatever help we can get to achieve that be it Rus or USA . but , both represent the two sides of the same coin and claiming otherwise is disingenuous

 

[Yun Ming]

I don't understand how you came to this conclusion/theory that Russia can support 2billion + $! Why do you think India , China and SEA have such a high pop density? Its because of our favorable climate. Russia is sparsely populated because their country is shit to live in as far as climate is concerned.

This won't change magically. So there is no question of Russia + CAS ever hosting 2 Billion+ pop.

21st century is going to be Asian century through and through, and we will take whatever help we can get to achieve that be it Rus or USA . but , both represent the two sides of the same coin and claiming otherwise is disingenuous

Yes, high population density has a lot to do with favorable weather. But lets not kid ourselves and ignore the fact that poor people have a knack for giving birth to more children than they can handle. Trust me, I live in the Philippines.
Europe's and Russia's climate do suck, but not so much for whites. Why do you think they are white? They've adapted to cold weather conditions. I hear Siberians can take a bath in the freezing open.
Russia right now can sustain 600 million people that's for sure. Their arable land is just slightly less than India's so I don't see how they can not sustain 1 billion ever.
We can go on and on but Russia falling into the hands of the West is not good for Asians.

 

[Yun Ming]

The population you mentioned are Muslim Boom,it is nothing but disastrous for any civilized country.EU will be destroyed in future because of low TFR and it replaced by Muslim immigrants not Chinese/Indians.

BTW from 10000's years EU,China&India known as highly densely pop regions because of resources &weather.Every animal thrives on favourable weather why except Humans?

Like I said in my previous posts, there is no Russian population boom. I was talking about a potential.
I never said colder climates are more favorable to temperate ones. But it's not as bad as people say it is, especially whites.
Didn't Russia make India's carrier in the "uninhabitable" North?

Arable land is the safest statistics (unless you have better ones, I'd want to know) we can rely on to see how much people a country can accommodate. Let's not forget technology will always be there to change the state of "uninhabitable " lands.
Do you believe India can sustain it's population? Do you believe India can lift 90+% of it's 1.2 billion people to middle class with it's 1.4million km "habitable" land?
If so, then the US can sustain more than that while Russia can a bit lesser than that.
If US and Russia starts to match India's and China's population(the very seed of their resurgence), is it safe to assume 21st century is up for grabs between whites and browns/yellows?
That's what I believe.

 

[Yun Ming]

lol Arable is not an indicator.Arable+Weather is!,Human body temperature is 98 F(or 37 degree).India's avg temp is guess what 37+ or -.India (included Pak+BD)subcontinent is densely populated because of this reason.From 10000's of years Ind sub>>> China>>> EU.

Repeat: Indian sub continent is the most favorable place for an animal called 'Humans' from 1000's of years,Period.BTW India can sustain 3 bn pop without any problem,I guarantee it.

We fuc*** because of Socialist policies thanks to USSR now everything is privatized and growth is inevitable and power/domination will grow.Wait&See.

I repeat, I never claimed the colder North is more favorable than than the temperate south. Just not as bad as you think it is. Technology will chime in, global warming, big or small, will have it's say as well.

Of course we want a dominant Asia
I'm just not convince Asia has bagged and tagged the 21st century through and through. Ideally we want to be the top
The reality is most likely a more balanced World. I would take that over white supremacy for another 100 years.

 

[Yun Ming]

NO not another 100 years,at most 10 years!.

1.White-West grown because of Chines&Indian(Asian) minds,thanks to globalization Chinese/Asians are now coming back to their native lands and Indian immigration will also stop in 8 yrs most.

2.They replaced by Most Intelligent races on earth called as Muslims&Africans.Wait&See how White-West collapse with Mus+Afr immigration.KARMA

3.In reality wars are over and people are not interested in domination any more and want to live in peace in a civilized world(note: civilized not muslim).So Higher the human resources more the power in globalized world,so in few years

Power rankings
1.China
2.India

1. We are for Asia, that's clear. But let's not get childish and silly. Claiming what you just claimed is just as credible as claiming the West educated us with western infrastractures and western brains and that's why we are succeeding.

2. Meh. That's like a silly random youtube comment right there

3.That is true. Future humans will not be as brutal and domination obsessed as before. Which is exactly why I believe the world will most likely be a more balanced world.
However, the emphasis won't be on Power but more so on individual well being. More on Per Capita and less on collective Gdp.

 

[Yun Ming]

individual well being =! Percapita/gdp

The most foolish thing is measuring humans with White measurements like Percapita/GDP etc etc.Go and live in BIG cars&Apartments in Iceland/Canada who cares those shitty places.

They have huge land&resources and it give edge in percapita&GDP.China&Indian will never touch those figures so stop bothering about those fancy terms percapita/gdp/prosperity index etc.If Humans are only measured on stats sorry they are not humans any more they are machines!.

I hates white west robots/machines/stats.

The concept of Per capita/gdp is not bad at all.
What's wrong is that every country is seen through the eyes of the Dollar. They are constantly comparing themselves to others.
A country should see its per capita/gdp through it's own perspective ,currency, standards.

 

[Mad Indian]

Yes, high population density has a lot to do with favorable weather. But lets not kid ourselves and ignore the fact that poor people have a knack for giving birth to more children than they can handle. Trust me, I live in the Philippines.
Europe's and Russia's climate do suck, but not so much for whites. Why do you think they are white? They've adapted to cold weather conditions. I hear Siberians can take a bath in the freezing open.
Russia right now can sustain 600 million people that's for sure. Their arable land is just slightly less than India's so I don't see how they can not sustain 1 billion ever.
We can go on and on but Russia falling into the hands of the West is not good for Asians.

Who said that Russia falling into west is good for Asia?

BTW, there is difference between theoretical limit to which Russia can grow and the practical limit to which it can grow. Yes, Russia can support as much as 2bn people, and so can India - as much as 2-3b! People, but is any of that going to happen within this century or in near future? Of course not.

Also, humans can adapt to Saharan desert climate too, does not mean that it is better to live there. Just because we have adapted to Siberian climate, albirt with use of heavy energy for heating, it does not mean that we can populate it to the extend India/China/sea are populated.

Also, while high population is also linked to poverty, it does not change the favvt that it is also associated with favorable loving conditions. With or without poverty or industrialisation, China / India and sea would always have higher populations.

BTW, who is going to breed so much population for Russia ? Already their govt is struggling to incentivice a higher pop growth. Despite that they are barely scraping through. And so where is the question of Russia ever growing by 7- 8 times its present size?

 

[Mad Indian]

We are for Asia, that's clear. But let's not get childish and silly. Claiming what you just claimed is just as credible as claiming the West educated us with western infrastractures and western brains and that's why we are succeeding.

I don't know about phillipines but western ideas weren't worth shit without their guns as far as India is concerned. They actually destroyed our native educations and industries and techs to make the colonisation easier. So the very contention that western ideas is better is highly contentious. If western ideas are great, why does western societies have so much more crime compared to Asians ?(for instance, India has a rape per capita about 20 - 25 times lower than that of the west).

2. Meh. That's like a silly random youtube comment right there

Lol. While in part this is true and well being is largely related to culture and upbringing, what he says is true to a large extend too. Seriously, its not without a coincidence that Asian immigrants(specially Indian Americans closely followed by other ethnicities) and Jews are the best performing ethnic societies in USA.

3.That is true. Future humans will not be as brutal and domination obsessed as before. Which is exactly why I believe the world will most likely be a more balanced world.
However, the emphasis won't be on Power but more so on individual well being. More on Per Capita and less on collective Gdp.

While per capita GDP is important and is a very good way to measure individual success/dev inside a country, it does not measure the actual power of a state. Seriously, Portugal, Spain, Ireland etc have a per capita income about 30 times that of India. But can any of them go toe to toe with us in any conflict? Obviously not!

 

[apple]

Now that's what a call an epic joke

http://www.smh.com.au/world/raghad-...im-of-russian-airstrikes-20151104-gkqemu.html

Observatory's figures also suggest the air campaign waged by a US-led coalition in the past 13 months has killed IS members at a higher rate while harming civilians less.

The Observatory said it has so far confirmed 185 civilians killed in Russian strikes the past month — including 46 women and 48 children — while the toll among IS fighters was 131. The heaviest toll came among Syrian rebels not connected to IS, with 279 dead, the group said. In contrast, the US-led air campaign has killed 3,726 IS members — an average of 252 a month, and 225 civilians — according to the Observatory's statistics.
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As I was saying, the west has been bombing ISIS for a couple of years. Also, all of our equipment is several generations ahead of anything the Russians have, their contingent would only make up a small fraction of the combined foreign air power deployed to the region, and they have little operational experience.

People on this thread talking about Russia being a superpower are way off the mark.

 

[Kshatriya87]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/raghad-...im-of-russian-airstrikes-20151104-gkqemu.html

Observatory's figures also suggest the air campaign waged by a US-led coalition in the past 13 months has killed IS members at a higher rate while harming civilians less.

The Observatory said it has so far confirmed 185 civilians killed in Russian strikes the past month — including 46 women and 48 children — while the toll among IS fighters was 131. The heaviest toll came among Syrian rebels not connected to IS, with 279 dead, the group said. In contrast, the US-led air campaign has killed 3,726 IS members — an average of 252 a month, and 225 civilians — according to the Observatory's statistics.
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As I was saying, the west has been bombing ISIS for a couple of years. Also, all of our equipment is several generations ahead of anything the Russians have, their contingent would only make up a small fraction of the combined foreign air power deployed to the region, and they have little operational experience.

People on this thread talking about Russia being a superpower are way off the mark.

A source that supports Americans already. Nice. I can show articles from RT which claim otherwise.

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[Mad Indian]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/raghad-...im-of-russian-airstrikes-20151104-gkqemu.html

Observatory's figures also suggest the air campaign waged by a US-led coalition in the past 13 months has killed IS members at a higher rate while harming civilians less.

The Observatory said it has so far confirmed 185 civilians killed in Russian strikes the past month — including 46 women and 48 children — while the toll among IS fighters was 131. The heaviest toll came among Syrian rebels not connected to IS, with 279 dead, the group said. In contrast, the US-led air campaign has killed 3,726 IS members — an average of 252 a month, and 225 civilians — according to the Observatory's statistics.
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As I was saying, the west has been bombing ISIS for a couple of years. Also, all of our equipment is several generations ahead of anything the Russians have, their contingent would only make up a small fraction of the combined foreign air power deployed to the region, and they have little operational experience.

People on this thread talking about Russia being a superpower are way off the mark.

Bull shit alert . USA is what created the isis and alnusra(alqaeda). Stop posting bull shit propaganda.

Only after Russians started bombings, that Isis is actually shrinking.

BTW. The report you posted, reg civilian deaths, came online even before the Russian airplanes were in the air. Have some shame atleast before posting such ridiculous propaganda.

And USA air strikes killed only 250 civies in Total? Wtf are you drinking. This must be pretty low for even your kind. I read about an usa air strike on a hospital in Aleppo just two weeks back and another on one the power plants in Aleppo shortly after that. And yet you have the gall to claim that civilian casualties were less than 250? Who do you think you are fooling?

 

[Mad Indian]

@Yun Ming

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/is-india-really-over-populated.61167/

I wrote this post a long time back. Please go through it.

@saty you too bro.

 

[Mad Indian]

A source that supports Americans already. Nice. I can show articles from RT which claim otherwise.

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He must have found this from some hidden corner of CIA 's ass

Hell even their mainstream media was not able to sell their usual crap and they had to disable their comments sections these days on Russian bombing campaign. A vast majority of their own people are not buying the usa lies anymore.So much for their free speech

BTW, fareed zakharia of CNN asked his viewers to stop swooning over Putin during one of his news commentaries. Must give you an insight on what the western commoners actually think of the USA and its lackeys and Russia

 

[apple]

A source that supports Americans already. Nice. I can show articles from RT which claim otherwise.

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I'm not trying to convince you, just offering evidence for the non crazies that may have some how ended up reading this thread.

And seriously, your response to me is RT If you believe RT, I hope you hold on to your mummy' s when you cross the road.

P.S. I can't see your posts as your own my ignore list, Mad Indian. But, presumably you're quoting me. It's not really my thing, but I suppose I was somewhat flattered by Pmaitra's homoerotic advances towards me. But, one gay guy being obsessed with me on this website is enough, I think. You wouldn't want to make Pmaitra jealous now would you? This is the internet after all and Pmaitra can cause you all sorts of virtual trouble.

 

[Mad Indian]

P.S. I can't see your posts as your own my ignore list, Mad Indian. But, presumably you're quoting me. It's not really my thing, but I suppose I was somewhat flattered by Pmaitra's homoerotic advances towards me. But, one gay guy being obsessed with me on this website is enough, I think. You wouldn't want to make Pmaitra jealous now would you? This is the internet after all and Pmaitra can cause you all sorts of virtual trouble.

What a fag. So me quoting you makes you think that I am interested in you? Are you that gender confused that you cant even take a reply as a reply and think that you are being pursued?

Really, are all westerners **** like you. Damn, hitler was right. he should have eliminated your kind

 

[Kshatriya87]

I'm not trying to convince you, just offering evidence for the non crazies that may have some how ended up reading this thread.

And seriously, your response to me is RT If you believe RT, I hope you hold on to your mummy' s when you cross the road.

P.S. I can't see your posts as your own my ignore list, Mad Indian. But, presumably you're quoting me. It's not really my thing, but I suppose I was somewhat flattered by Pmaitra's homoerotic advances towards me. But, one gay guy being obsessed with me on this website is enough, I think. You wouldn't want to make Pmaitra jealous now would you? This is the internet after all and Pmaitra can cause you all sorts of virtual trouble.

That's not evidence, that's made up stuff made to look Americans look good and demonize the Russians.

P.S. You bring up my mummy or any family members again, be ready for a hail of abuses coming your way.

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[apple]

That's not evidence, that's made up stuff made to look Americans look good and demonize the Russians.

P.S. You bring up my mummy or any family members again, be ready for a hail of abuses coming your way.

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I have no idea who the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights are and they are the organisation the article quoted. So, can't really defend them, you could be right.

P.S. Try a bit harder Mad Indian, maybe I'm available for conversion

 

[Yun Ming]

I don't know about phillipines but western ideas weren't worth shit without their guns as far as India is concerned. They actually destroyed our native educations and industries and techs to make the colonisation easier. So the very contention that western ideas is better is highly contentious. If western ideas are great, why does western societies have so much more crime compared to Asians ?(for instance, India has a rape per capita about 20 - 25 times lower than that of the west).

I did not claim their education was better. I was trying to point out that my example (not my thoughts) and saty's claim are both silly.
Crime rates in Asia is not necessarily lower than West. I think Europe has like 3 murders per 100k people, Asia's is 2.9 this year. Although India's rape rates is curiously really low. I hope it is true.
Here in the Philippines, crime rate I believe is higher than what statistics tell. There's this idea here that the Philippines is one of the happiest countries in the world hence why we have no serial killers. LOL, I have heard of 3 serial killers in my home town alone. They never got reported in national media or even local radio.

Lol. While in part this is true and well being is largely related to culture and upbringing, what he says is true to a large extend too. Seriously, its not without a coincidence that Asian immigrants(specially Indian Americans closely followed by other ethnicities) and Jews are the best performing ethnic societies in USA.

It's true, Indian ethnicities have the highest average income in the US. But that's more so because the Indians allowed to take residence there are some of the most intelligent and skillful Indians, filtered ones. While white American income as a whole gets dragged down by the lower earners. It's an Asian brain drain if you ask me.
Take America's most skillfull people, ship them to India to work and they'll have the highest average income there too.

While per capita GDP is important and is a very good way to measure individual success/dev inside a country, it does not measure the actual power of a state. Seriously, Portugal, Spain, Ireland etc have a per capita income about 30 times that of India. But can any of them go toe to toe with us in any conflict? Obviously not!

You misunderstand me, I did not say a small GDP/ high per capita state will beat a big high GDP country in conflict.
Because the next generation of people will be less tolerant to aggression, the focus will shift to individual well-being.
I'm saying people will be less and less bragadocious of their country's collective might (Power) but rather of their individual standard of living. I have experienced this first hand already. During my younger days, I've bickered with people from small countries that have low gdp/high per capita
Norwegians seem to annoy a lot of Americans too with there incessant "we are more of a first world country than you, you need to go to war to preserve your gdp"

 

[Yun Ming]

Who said that Russia falling into west is good for Asia?

BTW, there is difference between theoretical limit to which Russia can grow and the practical limit to which it can grow. Yes, Russia can support as much as 2bn people, and so can India - as much as 2-3b! People, but is any of that going to happen within this century or in near future? Of course not.

Also, humans can adapt to Saharan desert climate too, does not mean that it is better to live there. Just because we have adapted to Siberian climate, albirt with use of heavy energy for heating, it does not mean that we can populate it to the extend India/China/sea are populated.

Also, while high population is also linked to poverty, it does not change the favvt that it is also associated with favorable loving conditions. With or without poverty or industrialisation, China / India and sea would always have higher populations.

BTW, who is going to breed so much population for Russia ? Already their govt is struggling to incentivice a higher pop growth. Despite that they are barely scraping through. And so where is the question of Russia ever growing by 7- 8 times its present size?

I was talking about a future you and I will not live long enough to see
I know it's quite silly, but I care for that future even for just a little bit.

Anyways, all in all, I believe the 21st century will be close battle between whites and asians with no clear cut winner unlike you guys think. It's not like stagnating West(including Canada, Aus,NZ) is going to magically turn to 3rd world countries you know.