Vietnam refuses to stamp new Chinese passports

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    BBC News - Vietnam refuses to stamp new Chinese passports over map

    Vietnamese officials are refusing to stamp new Chinese passports bearing a map that lays claim to disputed areas.

    Border authorities have instead been issuing visas on separate pieces of paper and stamping those issued previously as invalid.

    Vietnam, the Philippines and Taiwan have objected to the map because it shows disputed islands in the South China Sea to be a part of China.

    India is also embroiled a row over the map's inclusion of disputed areas.
     
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  3. Oblaks

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    The philippines should do the same
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    looks like Vietnam took the lead away from india - -- no harm after all were friends - but just as an indication of the guts


    so should india and each and every asean country - unless they're a puppett
     
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    Its payback time, China will get what they deserve.
     
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    If this goes on. China will have to loose its men, in a war where all the nations will be against China.
     
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    And some Chinese member on DFI was saying the other day, that Vietnam simply charged additional 30 RMB from every Vietnamese applicant and stamped the passport!! I don't know why people like to pull facts out of their Musharraf. :tsk:
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    I think it is better to make stamp with world map with India shown with different color and China and tibet shown in another color, even disputed parts of China is show in different color. This multi color stamp should be put to all visas. So if the people who were issued Indian visa, apply for Chinese visa, PRC will get shock.
    If they give visa to foreigner after our visa, that means they have accepted our stand on these issues.
     
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  10. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The Chinese are now in deep waters of their own creation!

    What does their map show?

    The world?

    The believe in the Bible where it is said that the meek shall inherit the world.

    The Chinese claim they are a meek and loveable lot like the Giant Panda.

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    Loveabe and meek!
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    I think China is doing this on purpose and at the same time they are showing their military power to world meaning their by that we will settle this by force.
     
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    China's Passport Propaganda Baffles Experts
    November 27, 2012
    The Christian Science Monitor

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    China’s neighbors are seething with anger over new Beijing-issued passports that they see as the latest, underhand, Chinese jab in an ongoing regional row about maritime territory.

    Beijing has infuriated India, too, with its e-passports, decorated with a map of China that shows disputed territories across the South China Sea – and Himalayan land that New Delhi claims – as belonging to China.

    Vietnam is refusing to stamp the new passports with visas, for fear that to do so would imply acceptance of China’s claims. The Indian consulate in Beijing is stamping its own map of the disputed border when it affixes visas to the new passports.

    The quiet Chinese move has baffled even some Chinese experts.

    “I do not know why they decided to do this,” says Niu Jun, professor of international relations at Peking University. “It cannot resolve any of the disputes with our neighbors and we could expect a response from the other countries.”

    At Vietnam’s border with China, Vietnamese officials are not pasting visas into the new passports, but issuing them on separate pieces of paper.

    The Vietnamese government says it has sent a diplomatic note to Beijing asking the Chinese government to remove “erroneous content” from the new passports.

    The Chinese government began issuing the passports, which contain an electronic chip with the holder’s personal data, last April. It is believed to have handed out more than 5 million of them, but the map began stirring controversy only a few days ago.

    The Philippines, engaged in a fierce territorial dispute with China over fishing grounds near the Scarborough Shoal, has protested to Beijing. Taiwan, which Beijing claims as an integral part of its territory but which enjoys de facto independence, has also complained.

    “This is total ignorance of reality and only provokes disputes,” said Taiwan’s Mainland Affairs Council, the body responsible for relations with China, in a statement last week.

    The map of China, on page 8 of the new passports, shows a dotted line to illustrate China’s territorial claim to almost the whole of the South China Sea, which puts it in conflict with a number of its neighbors, such as Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, and Brunei.

    Washington has dismissed the map as irrelevant.

    “Stray maps that they include are not part” of international standards that passports must meet, US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Monday.

    “These issues need to be negotiated among the stakeholders, among ASEAN and China, and, you know, a picture on a passport does not change that,” she added.

    China has defended its new travel documents as being in line with international standards.

    “China is not targeting a specific country,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said on Friday. “China is willing to communicate with relevant countries and continue to promote contacts.”

    The passport row is the latest flare-up of tensions in the South China Sea that are complicating Beijing’s relations with several of its neighbors.

    In May, China suspended the import of bananas from the Philippines until Manila backed down in a dispute over fisheries around the Scarborough Shoal.

    In June, the state owned Chinese oil company CNOOC [CEO 209.67 -2.49 (-1.17%) ] invited foreign firms to bid for exploration rights in an area close to Vietnam’s coast. A month later Beijing announced that it was upgrading the town of Sansha, in the Paracel Islands, which it seized from Vietnam in 1974, to the status of a prefecture-level municipality and would soon station troops there.

    China is also embroiled in a territorial dispute with Japan over three uninhabited islands in the East China Sea known in Chinese as the Diaoyu islands and in Japan as the Senkaku. Both sides have sent surveillance and coast guard vessels to patrol the disputed waters, raising fears of a clash.


    China's Passport Propaganda Baffles Experts - Christian Science Monitor - US Business News - CNBC
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I am no expert, but the manner in which China is approaching her foreign policy with the neighbours is indeed real baffling!
     
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    China is losing the battle for hearts and minds and will lose the war.
     
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    Why don't China show pak in there new map ... Than no country will have any issue on this ....they will stamp easily ...:laugh:
     
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    Vietnam is one gutsy little nation - remember the French and then the US could not defeat them.
     
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    Interestingly, China did not include in their map the islands it is claiming against Japan... chicken against a real match..? :rolleyes:

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    :hail: Vietnamese Government
    What a brave bold step.
     
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    kind like phillippine name the south china sea into west phillippine sea :thumb:
     
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