US submits list of 10 defence technologies for transfer to India

[drkrn]

USA needs money now to recover from financial crisis and when these deals would be done this would give dollar more space . France, Germany, Russia, USA all are offering civilian, nuclear and military technologies to India which is mainly to keep India in their respective blocks . Russians are working to bring India in SCO , where as NATO has offered Missile shield .

India should be neutral in all these blocks .

usa economy is 14 trillion dollar,india is struggling to cross 2 trillion mark.their defence spendings near 700 billion$.
usa doesnt need india if its for money.they need us more to be a counter to china in this region

 

[I-G]

usa economy is 14 trillion dollar,india is struggling to cross 2 trillion mark.their defence spendings near 700 billion$.
usa doesnt need india if its for money.they need us more to be a counter to china in this region

First thing i am not comparing America with India . But the Russians are making the American economy to go down by doing business in Euros and even the same European countries are doing because of which dollar is going more down but with certain military and technology transfer deals , Americans are working to keep the dollar as International currency in circulation , BRICS have been a big blow for the Americans economically
So what is going on with the Shutdown .. something around 700,000 have left unpaid .

The shutdown has left more than 700,000 employees on unpaid leave and closed national parks, tourist sites, government websites, office buildings, and more.

However, as one budget crisis raged in Washington DC, another one - potentially more dangerous - looms in the coming weeks.

On 17 October, the US government will run out of cash to pay its bills unless the debt ceiling is raised.
BBC News - US shutdown: White House talks fail to end deadlock

 

[arnabmit]

When did that happen ? Link please !!!!

India Hedges its Bets by Looking for Homegrown Surface-to-air Missiles | Defense News | defensenews.com

No official with the Indian Defence Ministry would say why the need arose to acquire more MRSAMs even as the Indo-Israeli project is developing. Sources in the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), which partnered with Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) and Rafael of Israel in 2009 for the program, said the MRSAM prototype has failed initial tests. Sources added that the induction of the first firing unit will take place no earlier than 2017, as opposed to the planned induction this year.

 

[no smoking]

Thank You, don't you think it is a bad news for China ?

India is getting Technical inputs from Isreal, France, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Britain and now USA...

Not really!

India has been receiving such kind of TOT for decades. Until today, India is still relying on weapon importation.

There are some traps in these TOT:
1. They only give those techs which is already outdated or to be outdated.
2. They always keep some key parts, materials or process know-how for themselves, so you have no problem to use it in current weapons. But when you will have great difficulties in develping next generation weapon with it.
3. Generally, the procedure of seeking the answer is more important than the anwer! With TOT, your team will never get the experience of seeking the anser.

 

[datguy79]

We can get few predators and few hundred Hellfire missiles to use against the Paki Intruders until 2017.. The recent case when the Pakis took over our posts and Our Heli-Gun ships were not being able to engage the enemy will be enough to justify..

we can just bomb them... Even the -----is will not try to intrude!!

That is a VERY expensive way to fight some ragtag terrorists.

 

[jmj_overlord]

That is a VERY expensive way to fight some ragtag terrorists.

expensive, but maybe effective

 

[nirranj]

doesn't paki army know that they cant hold on indian retaliation for long.why such foolish occupations?

Two reasons,

They can provoke India and accuse it of being Aggressive. This will help bring down India's image in the west (general public). India will provide evidence of intruders, which Pakistan can dismiss as Non state actors.

Their Military and Intelligence brass will once again get a life line to get out of the current political stability. Political stability means a powerfull government and a less influence in decision making for the Military and intelligence community.

 

[drkrn]

Two reasons,

They can provoke India and accuse it of being Aggressive. This will help bring down India's image in the west (general public). India will provide evidence of intruders, which Pakistan can dismiss as Non state actors.

Their Military and Intelligence brass will once again get a life line to get out of the current political stability. Political stability means a powerfull government and a less influence in decision making for the Military and intelligence community.

this type of provoking and making India an aggressive country failed badly in kargil.world has been keeping an eye on pak ever since.
false logic.

2nd absolutely correct

 

[Dinesh_Kumar]

Superb! Thats exactly what I wanted to say!

Not really!

India has been receiving such kind of TOT for decades. Until today, India is still relying on weapon importation.

There are some traps in these TOT:
1. They only give those techs which is already outdated or to be outdated.
2. They always keep some key parts, materials or process know-how for themselves, so you have no problem to use it in current weapons. But when you will have great difficulties in develping next generation weapon with it.
3. Generally, the procedure of seeking the answer is more important than the anwer! With TOT, your team will never get the experience of seeking the anser.

 

[bose]

Not really!

India has been receiving such kind of TOT for decades. Until today, India is still relying on weapon importation.

You are totally ill informed, India faced some stringent sanction from USA & NATO countries after 1974 & 1998 nuclear tests"¦ even scientists attached with the defense institutions had restrictions movement into these countries"¦ after 1974 tests India was in very bad shape not even able to feed its citizens were dependent on western aids, which were stopped abruptly"¦ India pull it through those difficult times with grace of GOD"¦

Soviet union was the only country then to stand by India and gave weapons but not the technology then it was more of a buyer / seller relationships when all western countries were reluctant to sell weapons to India"¦.

There are some traps in these TOT:
1. They only give those techs which is already outdated or to be outdated.

No one gives latest technology not even China to its dearest friend Pakistan, so India have to innovate and learn to work on the top of the technology received from the said countries and become self reliant in 10 – 15 years of time"¦ No spoon feeding required"¦

2. They always keep some key parts, materials or process know-how for themselves, so you have no problem to use it in current weapons. But when you will have great difficulties in develping next generation weapon with it.

Getting technology is a means to bridge a gap ONLY, Indian R&D have to work to come up with next generation of technology, no need to reinvent the wheel gain and again, learn and gain the knowledge and build upon those technology to suit India's requirement"¦
One example is Greanpine Radar from Israel, Indian scientist learned from Israelis and build on the existing one to suit to India's requirements"¦ India's anti ballistic missile uses the same Radar with Indian enhancements"¦ as I said spoon feed not required"¦

3. Generally, the procedure of seeking the answer is more important than the anwer! With TOT, your team will never get the experience of seeking the anser.

As I said earlier the TOT & Joint Venture is only to bridge the technology gap quickly rather than reinventing the wheel gain"¦ it does not help India to go through the same pain that Russia, USA or Germany went through in last 60 years to build a Jet Engine"¦ Better for India to go for a Joint Venture with say France to learn and gain the knowledge of engine making, then the Indian scientist have to work and innovate to come up with something to India's requirement"¦

 

[drkrn]

Not really!

India has been receiving such kind of TOT for decades. Until today, India is still relying on weapon importation.

There are some traps in these TOT:
1. They only give those techs which is already outdated or to be outdated.
2. They always keep some key parts, materials or process know-how for themselves, so you have no problem to use it in current weapons. But when you will have great difficulties in develping next generation weapon with it.
3. Generally, the procedure of seeking the answer is more important than the anwer! With TOT, your team will never get the experience of seeking the anser.

1.we till now recieved tech from russia,france and israel which are advanced than our neighbours.
2.now we have started next level of friendship with russia giving us most important techs which are day dream for our industry here.same goes with french and israel
3.absolutely,true.india will try its own way to find a solution

 

[drkrn]

That is a VERY expensive way to fight some ragtag terrorists.

but worthy