US, India sign military logistics agreement

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US is a business man. They will never sell some thing on discounted rate when they now India can buy their equipment at full cost.
To the most India will get access to equipment that where previously not available to India.......
Not true.

They already offered it twice.
 

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Not true.

They already offered it twice.
They offered it at jacked up prices, whenever they offered. The MRP of M777 is 550 million when it is sold to the west, but they jacked it to 750 million when India sent a request.

At the same time, India wanted the Green Pine radar, the US blocked it, finally Israel had to give a cold shoulder to American complaints and sell it to India, which upset India.

Only US fanboys will deny hard facts in lieu of a feel good feeling of being an ally (slave) of the US. Perhaps the US has started 50 cent gangs too; Seeing a lot of those on the forum lately.
 

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They offered it at jacked up prices, whenever they offered. The MRP of M777 is 550 million when it is sold to the west, but they jacked it to 750 million when India sent a request.
One country buy howitzers as off the shelf product and another wants to make it or assemble it at home.

There will be some difference in price.

Anyway, just for your information, "Defence Acquisition" itself is a very huge subject.

And special universities are there, just to cover that subject.


At the same time, India wanted the Green Pine radar, the US blocked it, finally Israel had to give a cold shoulder to American complaints and sell it to India, which upset India.
Eh.

They are doing it even today. Any big deal in it...!

Just bcz US wants bigger share of Indian defence business.


Only US fanboys will deny hard facts in lieu of a feel good feeling of being an ally (slave) of the US. Perhaps the US has started 50 cent gangs too; Seeing a lot of those on the forum lately.
Your frustration.......!

or getting desperate ....!

may be, yeah....!
 

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They offered it at jacked up prices, whenever they offered. The MRP of M777 is 550 million when it is sold to the west, but they jacked it to 750 million when India sent a request.

At the same time, India wanted the Green Pine radar, the US blocked it, finally Israel had to give a cold shoulder to American complaints and sell it to India, which upset India.

Only US fanboys will deny hard facts in lieu of a feel good feeling of being an ally (slave) of the US. Perhaps the US has started 50 cent gangs too; Seeing a lot of those on the forum lately.
Oh come on US sell u the weapons to counter China and Pakistan while we earn some profits it's good deal Now go tie up China while US support India from behind. Just don't expect US directly involved in a indo-China war.
 

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Oh come on US sell u the weapons to counter China and Pakistan while we earn some profits it's good deal Now go tie up China while US support India from behind. Just don't expect US directly involved in a indo-China war.
You mean America would do to India what all of America's "friends and allies" did to it in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?

To be honest if there ever is, God forbid, an Indo/Sino war I doubt America Will be more than a regional power if and it were to happen.
 

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Oh come on US sell u the weapons to counter China and Pakistan while we earn some profits it's good deal Now go tie up China while US support India from behind. Just don't expect US directly involved in a indo-China war.
Ofcourse war was always a sales pitch US creates to sell its weapons...US sells to both sides of the war..to earn some profit.

India did keep china and pak in check without any kind of US support ,India did fight America's GOOD TERRORIST, the pak, while US kept on looking..not just once..but multiple times..bashed the American Good Terrorist -pak right in front of US.

US supporting INdia in case of an eventuality? C'mon pak may believe a nation like US but NOT INDIA!! India has seen enough flavors of US and knows very well on how NOT to trust US.

INdia doesnt require US to do its part and safe guard Indian interests...Its more like US wants India for keeping its commitments of protecting its stooges in the east asia alive in the IOR and make itself relevant. If US cannot effectively play that role..US is useless in South Asian region.


War?War? US and WAR? C'mon US doesnt know how to do war..they only know how to screwup and loot its retarded tax payers like you for instance, in the process. YOu guys been doing one Loooooooooong war for generations without result..

America should learn ...I meant the idiots in your whitehouse and pentagon...how to fight a war and bring in democracy to a meddled up situation from India..where India has "demonstrated" its capabilities of such on its eastern front.
 
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Many members view an India China war as an independent effort by India . This will most likely be an allied effort involving many nations USA, Japan, Australia etc.... Doubtful India will get involved in a long campaign alone.


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I found some interesting in the comment section of the blog "Trishul Trident" manned by Prasun Sengupta.

He professes some sort of a multinational coalition against Pakistan.I am copy-pasting all the comments he said in his blog while he was interacting with his viewers.The comments may not be in chronological order,so please bear with me::

Prasun Sengupta said:

To RAD: Forget about Zakir Naik, Super Su-30MKI or Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 & instead look at the big picture & ask yourself the following:

1) Why was the LEMOA not inked during NaMo’s most recent visit to the US? Is it because the US & India at the last minute agreed to increase the scope of the agreement by inserting in clauses related to the BECA & CISMOA agreements so that an all-inclusive agreement of some sort can now be drafted for approval?

2) Why was there a total blackoput of any news WRT to last May’s EX RED FLAG ALASKA?

3) As opposed to Su-30MKIs being used during EX Red Flag 2008 for interdiction & tactical strike, why were the Su-30MKIs this time used for escort & air superiority, with the Jaguar IS/DARIN-2s being used for tacticasl interdiction in the exercises?

4) Why was Alaska chosen as the venue, & not Nevada? Was it because Alaska best replicated the AirLand environment that one comes across in northern J & K & Gilgit-Baltistan?

To RON: It will be a 14-day multinational coalition air campaign that will not only neutralise the PAF & destroy its nuclear WMD arsenals, but will also see a successful IA/IAF AirLand campaign aimed at wresting back Gilgit-Baltistan. Pakistan will be extremely hard-hit by severely declining levels of FDI & decreasing quantum of foreign remittances from its reduced expatriate workforce, while internally from this September onwards Nawaz Sharif & Co will be virtually surrounded by opposition political parties in Lahore & Raiwind, all thanks to the Panama papers leaks about his hidden wealth & his UK-based assets. It could well even result in the Sharif Bros being unseated by other members of the PML-N & a new PM can be elected to save the fortunes of the PML-N, all this of course being done with the blessings of the PA that is operating behind-the-scenes. In the end, it may well emerge that Nawaz Sharif received financial assistance from the Saudi royalty in the mid-1990s (similar to how the Saudis made payments into the personal bank accounts of the Malaysian PM Najib) because the Saudis were politically investing in Sharif. But since he failed to deliver on the Yemeni crisis & chickened out, the Saudis are pissed off with him & therefore they are likely to welcome a new man heading the PML-N, while welcoming the Sharif bros back to Saudi Arabia as self-imposed exilees. And the Saudis made all their sentiments amply clear when they awarded NaMo the country's highest civilian award when NaMo had visited KSA earlier this year. So, while all this internal political churning is going on accompanied by growing internal instability with the people coming out in the streets to protest against political corruption & growing poverty, the PA will likely train its guns against Afghanistan & India & in an act of strategic defiance will also close all land transit routes from Karachi to Torkham & Chaman, all in order to become popular & that's when the shit will hit the fan & the PA will be inviting disaster via a multinational invasion whose principal aims will officially be to avert a regional humanitarian crisis & to de-nuclearise Pakistan. A divided & internally fractured Pakistan with scarce financial & military resources will not stand a chance to resist such a multinational AirLand operation. That will also be the time when parties like the PPP will feel more encouraged to unilaterally declare an independent Sindhu Desh.

5) What does all this bode for in terms of future joint air campaigns?

I don't know much about the credibility of this person,but found his comments interesting.here is the link: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?p...ogID=3545138702780178046&isPopup=false&page=1

@Bornubus @Kunal Biswas @Navnit Kundu @Indx TechStyle and other members,ur views please.
 

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I found some interesting in the comment section of the blog "Trishul Trident" manned by Prasun Sengupta.

He professes some sort of a multinational coalition against Pakistan.I am copy-pasting all the comments he said in his blog while he was interacting with his viewers.The comments may not be in chronological order,so please bear with me::

Prasun Sengupta said:

To RAD: Forget about Zakir Naik, Super Su-30MKI or Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 & instead look at the big picture & ask yourself the following:

1) Why was the LEMOA not inked during NaMo’s most recent visit to the US? Is it because the US & India at the last minute agreed to increase the scope of the agreement by inserting in clauses related to the BECA & CISMOA agreements so that an all-inclusive agreement of some sort can now be drafted for approval?

2) Why was there a total blackoput of any news WRT to last May’s EX RED FLAG ALASKA?

3) As opposed to Su-30MKIs being used during EX Red Flag 2008 for interdiction & tactical strike, why were the Su-30MKIs this time used for escort & air superiority, with the Jaguar IS/DARIN-2s being used for tacticasl interdiction in the exercises?

4) Why was Alaska chosen as the venue, & not Nevada? Was it because Alaska best replicated the AirLand environment that one comes across in northern J & K & Gilgit-Baltistan?

To RON: It will be a 14-day multinational coalition air campaign that will not only neutralise the PAF & destroy its nuclear WMD arsenals, but will also see a successful IA/IAF AirLand campaign aimed at wresting back Gilgit-Baltistan. Pakistan will be extremely hard-hit by severely declining levels of FDI & decreasing quantum of foreign remittances from its reduced expatriate workforce, while internally from this September onwards Nawaz Sharif & Co will be virtually surrounded by opposition political parties in Lahore & Raiwind, all thanks to the Panama papers leaks about his hidden wealth & his UK-based assets. It could well even result in the Sharif Bros being unseated by other members of the PML-N & a new PM can be elected to save the fortunes of the PML-N, all this of course being done with the blessings of the PA that is operating behind-the-scenes. In the end, it may well emerge that Nawaz Sharif received financial assistance from the Saudi royalty in the mid-1990s (similar to how the Saudis made payments into the personal bank accounts of the Malaysian PM Najib) because the Saudis were politically investing in Sharif. But since he failed to deliver on the Yemeni crisis & chickened out, the Saudis are pissed off with him & therefore they are likely to welcome a new man heading the PML-N, while welcoming the Sharif bros back to Saudi Arabia as self-imposed exilees. And the Saudis made all their sentiments amply clear when they awarded NaMo the country's highest civilian award when NaMo had visited KSA earlier this year. So, while all this internal political churning is going on accompanied by growing internal instability with the people coming out in the streets to protest against political corruption & growing poverty, the PA will likely train its guns against Afghanistan & India & in an act of strategic defiance will also close all land transit routes from Karachi to Torkham & Chaman, all in order to become popular & that's when the shit will hit the fan & the PA will be inviting disaster via a multinational invasion whose principal aims will officially be to avert a regional humanitarian crisis & to de-nuclearise Pakistan. A divided & internally fractured Pakistan with scarce financial & military resources will not stand a chance to resist such a multinational AirLand operation. That will also be the time when parties like the PPP will feel more encouraged to unilaterally declare an independent Sindhu Desh.

5) What does all this bode for in terms of future joint air campaigns?

I don't know much about the credibility of this person,but found his comments interesting.here is the link: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?p...ogID=3545138702780178046&isPopup=false&page=1

@Bornubus @Kunal Biswas @Navnit Kundu @Indx TechStyle and other members,ur views please.
Is there any merit to your first point
Are CISMOA and BECA effectively included in LEMOA ? From what I know ,it's just LSA modified to meet our demands

If I were you I wouldn't put too much thought in the comment section of a free blog.
 

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Prasun Sengupta said:

To RAD: Forget about Zakir Naik, Super Su-30MKI or Jaguar IS/DARIN-3 & instead look at the big picture & ask yourself the following:

1) Why was the LEMOA not inked during NaMo’s most recent visit to the US? Is it because the US & India at the last minute agreed to increase the scope of the agreement by inserting in clauses related to the BECA & CISMOA agreements so that an all-inclusive agreement of some sort can now be drafted for approval?

2) Why was there a total blackoput of any news WRT to last May’s EX RED FLAG ALASKA?

3) As opposed to Su-30MKIs being used during EX Red Flag 2008 for interdiction & tactical strike, why were the Su-30MKIs this time used for escort & air superiority, with the Jaguar IS/DARIN-2s being used for tacticasl interdiction in the exercises?

4) Why was Alaska chosen as the venue, & not Nevada?
Too much speculation. It's the kind of questions Khujliwal asks "why was Modi flying in Adani's jet?" "what secret deal was made? why isn't he telling us? "was it to give all natural resources of the nation to Adani for free?"

Coming to the point, even Pakistan participated in the recent Red Flag, the one which happened after Indian exercise. So it counts for nothing. US is not our friend, don't peddle theories of US joining us to help us accomplish our foreign policy objectives. This is a nation which endorsed Pakistan's view that India has no locus standi in Afghanistan, and continues to stick to that.

LSA is for counter-balancing China. But even that doesn't mean that the US will help us in a war with China. India sharing communication modules with the US means that it becomes easy for them to eavesdrop on our communications forever, regardless of whether the fabled India-China war happens or not.

India is in a tough spot, we are surrounded by enemies and we need to splinter Pakistan to release the pressure on our strategic logjam, otherwise we shall forever be in a stalemate. The US is not in favor of breaking Pakistan. CIA mouthpiece Christine Unfair said, when asked by an Indian audience member about US point of view about India splintering Pakistan, "If you try to break Baluchistan then they will start an insurgency in Junagadh". By 'they' she slyly implies US and Pakistan (just like they did during Khalistan insurgency).

US needs a united Pakistan because there is no other country in the region which allows them basing rights like Pakistan does. A splintered Pakistan will be a blow to American interests. The only reason Pakistan lives is because US wants it to live.

Red Flag drama is just to check our battle preparedness and sniff our radar signals.
 

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Too much speculation. It's the kind of questions Khujliwal asks "why was Modi flying in Adani's jet?" "what secret deal was made? why isn't he telling us? "was it to give all natural resources of the nation to Adani for free?"

Coming to the point, even Pakistan participated in the recent Red Flag, the one which happened after Indian exercise. So it counts for nothing. US is not our friend, don't peddle theories of US joining us to help us accomplish our foreign policy objectives. This is a nation which endorsed Pakistan's view that India has no locus standi in Afghanistan, and continues to stick to that.

LSA is for counter-balancing China. But even that doesn't mean that the US will help us in a war with China. India sharing communication modules with the US means that it becomes easy for them to eavesdrop on our communications forever, regardless of whether the fabled India-China war happens or not.

India is in a tough spot, we are surrounded by enemies and we need to splinter Pakistan to release the pressure on our strategic logjam, otherwise we shall forever be in a stalemate. The US is not in favor of breaking Pakistan. CIA mouthpiece Christine Unfair said, when asked by an Indian audience member about US point of view about India splintering Pakistan, "If you try to break Baluchistan then they will start an insurgency in Junagadh". By 'they' she slyly implies US and Pakistan (just like they did during Khalistan insurgency).

US needs a united Pakistan because there is no other country in the region which allows them basing rights like Pakistan does. A splintered Pakistan will be a blow to American interests. The only reason Pakistan lives is because US wants it to live.

Red Flag drama is just to check our battle preparedness and sniff our radar signals.
Thanks for the explanation.I think I just got too carried away.
 

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Tax-Free Defence Pact Aligns India With US

New Delhi: The military logistics exchange agreement that the Narendra Modi government has signed with the US is a tax-free alignment of strategic priorities.
It is tax-free because the government has given in writing that it will not impose customs duties, excise or import/export taxes on goods and services provided to US warships, aircraft and land forces that may access Indian military facilities.

It is an alignment of strategic priority because New Delhi has now firmly decided that it is in its interests to be within a system of US military alliances to access technology and military muscle.
The text of the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), signed during defence minister Manohar Parrikar's Washington visit this week, assures the US that its military can use Indian army, navy and air force facilities to further deployment. It says India will be extended the same privileges in US military facilities.

There are no prizes for guessing whether the Indian military will be so far deployed ever as the US military is. But India's navy may be a beneficiary in relation to its long-distance deployments, such as to South Africa (for friendly exchanges) and the Persian Gulf.


Following the LEMOA, an Indian navy flotilla may refuel at Diego Garcia on its voyage to South Africa. And Indian warships on counter-piracy patrol in the Gulf of Aden may take in POL (petroleum, oil and lubricants) from US tankers in the Persian Gulf without having to pay immediately.


The payment will be offset by goods or services provided to the US previously or subsequently. Each country will bill the other every three months.

The agreement does not give the US the right to establish a base in Indian territory, but it does commit India to America's "base operations support".

This means, for example, that if US forces want support to sustain their base in Diego Garcia, 3,000 miles into the Indian Ocean from the tip of the Indian peninsula, India may allow its port in Kochi to be used. Each country reserves the right to refuse to cooperate, according to the text.

In pursuing military-to-military relations under the LEMOA, India will be required to set up separate offices under the defence ministry and each of the armed forces that will interface with US military authorities.

Such offices have to be notified under a separate agreement that flows from the LEMOA, called "Implementing Arrangements".

The Prime Minister's Office had overruled home ministry objections to authorise Parrikar to agree to the pact. The home ministry had said that natural disasters and humanitarian relief came under its purview.

The LEMOA is modelled on the Acquisitions and Cross-Servicing Agreements (ACSA) that Washington has with its Nato partners. The change of nomenclature signals that it is India-specific. The UPA II government under then Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had all but signed a similar agreement with a different name, Mutual Logistics Support Agreement (MLSA), but it was aborted by opposition from then defence minister A.K. Antony.

At one point Pranab Mukherjee, who was defence minister and later foreign minister, had defended the MLSA in Parliament.

In a written reply in the Lok Sabha, he had said the MLSA "will not affect the independence of India's foreign policy". This history blunts the Congress's objections to the pact now.


The LEMOA states that logistics support would be extended for humanitarian purposes, disaster relief and joint exercises. But the definitions of such missions are subject to interpretation.

America has such agreements in South Asia with Afghanistan and Sri Lanka. Pakistan too had an agreement but allowed it to lapse in 2012. Bangladesh is considering such an agreement. But it is the pact with India that furthers the US military's purposes more than perhaps any agreement with any other country in the Asia Pacific.

Not only does India have the largest and most widespread of military facilities straddling its length from the Himalaya to Kanyakumari, it also has a seaboard on either side.

This makes access to Indian military infrastructure a great windfall for the US. India's landmass (and manpower) had been used by foreign powers in armed conflict earlier, notably in the First and Second World Wars, when India was not independent.

Eastern India, from Bengal to the farthest points of the Northeast, is littered with abandoned military airfields that bear witness to this history.

The Pentagon has been very clear in its objectives in signing the LEMOA with India. It is declared US policy that ACSA pacts will be pursued for many reasons, but chiefly for "preparing partner nation military forces for deployment in support of US-led or supported" operations.

The pact was first formally proposed by the US to India at a defence policy group meeting in the year 2004. It has come true now, 12 years later, when the US is "rebalancing" its military forces to the Asia Pacific (now repeatedly called the "Indo-Pacific") in an "Asian pivot".

Apart from domestic political pressure, the Modi government will now have to deal with international compulsions, specifically with Moscow.

Russia has been resentful of India's increasing military purchases from the US. With the LEMOA, Moscow is looking at whether New Delhi is shifting in its choice of strategic partnership - that is, defence supplies - from the east to the west.


Source>>
 

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Tax-Free Defence Pact Aligns India With US

New Delhi: The military logistics exchange agreement that the Narendra Modi government has signed with the US is a tax-free alignment of strategic priorities.
It is tax-free because the government has given in writing that it will not impose customs duties, excise or import/export taxes on goods and services provided to US warships, aircraft and land forces that may access Indian military facilities.

It is an alignment of strategic priority because New Delhi has now firmly decided that it is in its interests to be within a system of US military alliances to access technology and military muscle.
The text of the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA), signed during defence minister Manohar Parrikar's Washington visit this week, assures the US that its military can use Indian army, navy and air force facilities to further deployment. It says India will be extended the same privileges in US military facilities.

There are no prizes for guessing whether the Indian military will be so far deployed ever as the US military is. But India's navy may be a beneficiary in relation to its long-distance deployments, such as to South Africa (for friendly exchanges) and the Persian Gulf.


Following the LEMOA, an Indian navy flotilla may refuel at Diego Garcia on its voyage to South Africa. And Indian warships on counter-piracy patrol in the Gulf of Aden may take in POL (petroleum, oil and lubricants) from US tankers in the Persian Gulf without having to pay immediately.


The payment will be offset by goods or services provided to the US previously or subsequently. Each country will bill the other every three months.

The agreement does not give the US the right to establish a base in Indian territory, but it does commit India to America's "base operations support".

This means, for example, that if US forces want support to sustain their base in Diego Garcia, 3,000 miles into the Indian Ocean from the tip of the Indian peninsula, India may allow its port in Kochi to be used. Each country reserves the right to refuse to cooperate, according to the text.

In pursuing military-to-military relations under the LEMOA, India will be required to set up separate offices under the defence ministry and each of the armed forces that will interface with US military authorities.

Such offices have to be notified under a separate agreement that flows from the LEMOA, called "Implementing Arrangements".

The Prime Minister's Office had overruled home ministry objections to authorise Parrikar to agree to the pact. The home ministry had said that natural disasters and humanitarian relief came under its purview.

The LEMOA is modelled on the Acquisitions and Cross-Servicing Agreements (ACSA) that Washington has with its Nato partners. The change of nomenclature signals that it is India-specific. The UPA II government under then Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had all but signed a similar agreement with a different name, Mutual Logistics Support Agreement (MLSA), but it was aborted by opposition from then defence minister A.K. Antony.

At one point Pranab Mukherjee, who was defence minister and later foreign minister, had defended the MLSA in Parliament.

In a written reply in the Lok Sabha, he had said the MLSA "will not affect the independence of India's foreign policy". This history blunts the Congress's objections to the pact now.


The LEMOA states that logistics support would be extended for humanitarian purposes, disaster relief and joint exercises. But the definitions of such missions are subject to interpretation.

America has such agreements in South Asia with Afghanistan and Sri Lanka. Pakistan too had an agreement but allowed it to lapse in 2012. Bangladesh is considering such an agreement. But it is the pact with India that furthers the US military's purposes more than perhaps any agreement with any other country in the Asia Pacific.

Not only does India have the largest and most widespread of military facilities straddling its length from the Himalaya to Kanyakumari, it also has a seaboard on either side.

This makes access to Indian military infrastructure a great windfall for the US. India's landmass (and manpower) had been used by foreign powers in armed conflict earlier, notably in the First and Second World Wars, when India was not independent.

Eastern India, from Bengal to the farthest points of the Northeast, is littered with abandoned military airfields that bear witness to this history.

The Pentagon has been very clear in its objectives in signing the LEMOA with India. It is declared US policy that ACSA pacts will be pursued for many reasons, but chiefly for "preparing partner nation military forces for deployment in support of US-led or supported" operations.

The pact was first formally proposed by the US to India at a defence policy group meeting in the year 2004. It has come true now, 12 years later, when the US is "rebalancing" its military forces to the Asia Pacific (now repeatedly called the "Indo-Pacific") in an "Asian pivot".

Apart from domestic political pressure, the Modi government will now have to deal with international compulsions, specifically with Moscow.

Russia has been resentful of India's increasing military purchases from the US. With the LEMOA, Moscow is looking at whether New Delhi is shifting in its choice of strategic partnership - that is, defence supplies - from the east to the west.


Source>>
Great decisionn by the GoI in my opinion..........................
 

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India and the US quietly operationalise new Military Logistics Sharing Pact

A new military logistics-sharing pact between India and the United States has been quietly operationalised. The pact gives Indian forces access to supplies and spares across the world, and enables US warships and planes to replenish in India.

Small exchanges under the agreement have started, and Indian Navy ships currently on overseas deployment may shortly resupply with American assistance.

Signed in August last year, the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) went through bureaucratic red tape, but has finally been sorted out, with processes and procedures to avail the exchange facility detailed by both sides.


What is LEMOA?

The LEMOA provides for:

– Logistics support, supplies, and services – including food, water, billeting, transportation, petroleum, oils, lubricants, clothing, communication services, medical services, storage services, training services, spare parts and components, repair and maintenance services, calibration services, and port services.

– Reciprocal logistics support, which is to be used exclusively during authorised port visits, joint exercises, joint training, and humanitarian assistance and disaster relief efforts.

– Logistics support for any other cooperative efforts is to be provided only on a case-by-case basis through prior mutual consent of the parties, consistent with their respective laws, regulations and policies.

– Provision of logistics support, supplies and services from one party to the other is to be in return for either cash payments, or the reciprocal provision of logistics support, supplies, and services.


Elements already in use ::

Elements of the LEMOA were used at the Yudh Abhyas exercise in the US this September. Sources said a test project under LEMOA was carried out during the Malabar naval exercise in July this year, when an Indian tanker hooked up with a US destroyer in the Bay of Bengal.

Indian warships that are currently on a long overseas tour through the South China Sea may also benefit from the pact, which gives the Indian military the option to pick up fuel and other supplies from US bases around the world. Indian naval ships Satpura and Kadmatt, which are on eastern deployment, have reached Sasebo, Japan, and will sail all the way up to Russia.

Given the large number of US bases across the world, the Indian Navy will be a big gainer.

Visiting ships and planes will not need to make cash payments for fuel and services. These are simply to be accounted for by either side and, at the end of the year, the balance amount is to be paid.

Signed after more than a decade of discussions, LEMOA does not enable basing facilities by either nation, but has been a political hot potato that the UPA government was unwilling to take forward. Negotiations, however, progressed after the BJP came to power.

LEMOA is one of the foundation agreements that US signs with its major defence partners, others being the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) and the Communications and Information Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA).

While talks are on for these two, a breakthrough is yet to be achieved.



https://theprint.in/2017/10/14/india-us-new-military-logistics-sharing-pact/
 

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There goes India's strategic autonomy. India is on course to become another client state of USA all thanks to our government who has signed this pact.
 

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