US forces mounted secret Pakistan raids in hunt for al-Qaida

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  1. bengalraider

    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

    Oct 10, 2009
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    in a fast food joint next to the imperial shipyard
    Both American and British troops have taken part in secret operations within Pakistani territory, this report is going to be a hard one to explain for Mr Zardari.
  3. ppgj

    ppgj Senior Member Senior Member

    Aug 13, 2009
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    it is inconceivable to imagine GOP or PA not knowing these actions. it must be the unstated agreement not to publicise them for fear of mass anger.
    pakistan sustains itself on foreign aid and loans, it just does not have either the courage to resisit american actions or the will and strength to fight the terror groups even while they cultivate the groups who they think can be useful for them in the future.
    while PA and elements within the govt publicly condemn KL bill for mass consumption, they don't have any alternative to resist in any worthwhile way.
    so the 'so called' US raids will continue with or without pakistan's permission.
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    ‘US has intelligence personnel, but no troops in Pakistan’
    By Anwar Iqbal
    Wednesday, 23 Dec, 2009

    Holbrooke also said that the Pakistani military is much more popular in Pakistan today than they were in the beginning of the year.File Photo

    WASHINGTON: The United States has members of its intelligence services in Pakistan but it has no troops, US Special Envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan Richard Holbrooke said on Tuesday.

    ‘We have members of our intelligence services in every country in the world,’ Mr Holbrooke told PBS Television when asked if the United States had troops in Pakistan.

    ‘No members of the American military or CIA are in Pakistan, is that what you’re saying?’ he was asked.

    ‘I only said there are no American troops in Pakistan,’ said Mr Holbrooke.

    The interviewer — Charlie Rose — then asked: ‘So there may be CIA people and special operations people?’

    Mr Holbrooke responded by confirming that the US had members of its intelligence services in every country in the world and then quickly added: ‘But this is not a replay of another war (Vietnam) and another part of the world 50 years ago or 40 years ago. We are not doing what you’re alluded to.’

    Earlier on Tuesday, Britain’s Guardian newspaper reported that US Special Forces have conducted multiple clandestine raids as part of a secret war inside Pakistan’s tribal areas where Washington is pressing to expand its drone attacks.

    In his interview to PBS, Mr Holbrooke not only owned US drone attacks but also said that they had played a key role in eliminating Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders.

    When asked how he would evaluate using drones in Pakistan with the risk of civilian casualties, Mr Holbrooke reminded the interviewer that ‘some of the most dangerous people in the world who were alive and posing the most serious threats imaginable to the United States and Pakistan at the beginning of this year are not alive today’.

    Baitullah Mehsud and the director of Al Qaeda’s external operations were among those killed in the US drone attacks. The head of Al Qaeda’s external operations was killed only two weeks ago, he added.

    ‘These are very important moves forward. Al Qaeda has been under the most intense pressure, and we are working very closely on the Pakistanis on that,’ said Mr Holbrooke.

    Asked if the Pakistanis were refusing to take on the Haqqani network, he said: ‘Let me just put it this way. We’ve had the highest level set of American visitors in Pakistan of any country in the world in the last few months.’

    The people who visited Islamabad during this period included the US military chief Admiral Mike Mullen, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, National Security Advisor James Jones, Centcom chief Gen David Petraeus and the head of the US and Nato forces in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, said Mr Holbrooke, adding that they made ‘unpublicised’ regular visits to the Pakistani capital.

    ‘And the sum total of impact you’ve had on the Pakistani government is what?’ he was asked.

    ‘To be determined. I’m not going to try to give a grade to a work in progress,’ said Mr Holbrooke.

    Asked if the United States had made progress in convincing Pakistan to act against the Haqqani group, he said: ‘Yes, absolutely.’

    While discussing why the Pakistani military was reluctant to go after the Haqqani group, Mr Holbrooke said: ‘If you look at the Pakistani military’s activities today and compare them with the beginning of the year, there has been a huge change.’

    Operations against the militant, he noted, had also helped the military improve its image at home. ‘The Pakistani military is much more popular in Pakistan today than they were in the beginning of the year. They went back into Swat and retook it from the Taliban.

    They went into South Waziristan, which is one of the hearts of the insurgency,’ he added.
    ‘But are they prepared to go further and go more north?’ he was asked.

    ‘I’m going to leave that to General Kayani and the military for several reasons — it’s their country, it’s a question of military resources, and it’s a military issue which I don’t think should be discussed in public.’

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