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many things like the threat was not visible earlier. initially like-minded and liberals entered their nation which was followed by covert entry of their dumber and radical relatives. and from there problem started
I don't agree with this Britain has always been traditionally a racist society. The threat has become visible now because European economy has collapsed and they view muslims as people draining the little resources and handouts available.
 

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I would agree with you if you didn't brand all muslims in your judgement. You say muslims demand xyz in uk but are all muslims demanding it or just some of them. If someone posts muslims in good light you say you can post another video where muslim is speaking rubbish. But that shows that there is difference of opinion between both muslims in those videos so why use the extremist one as the sole representation. It is important to make that distinction.

Wiltshire Muslim group condemn extremist march in Wootton Bassett

The Wiltshire Islamic Cultural Centre has asked Wiltshire Police not to allow a planned march through Wootton Bassett to go ahead.

A statement on the group's website said: "We, along with all other Muslim community groups in Wiltshire and the surrounding area, including Bath Islamic Society and Swindon Thamesdown Islamic Association, unreservedly condemn this march and call on the organisers, Islam4UK, to not go ahead with it in the interests of public safety and the Muslims they claim to represent as well as to respect the rights of the people of Wootton Bassett and Wiltshire.

"We will hold Anjem Choudary and al-Muhajiroun responsible for any backlash against any Muslim in Wiltshire or elsewhere as a result of their proposed irresponsible and irrational actions and any insecurity brought upon the majority peaceful Muslim population.

"We strongly request Wiltshire Police to ban the proposed march in the interests of public order, public safety and community cohesion."

The centre said it has the backing of the Call To Islam Centre, in Bury Park, Luton.

The groups said they are willing to stage their own rally to "peacefully counter-demonstrate against Islam4UK" should the march be permitted to go ahead.

Communities Minister Shahid Malik said today: "If people do not support the war, they should direct these views at politicians, not our servicemen and women.

"Our troops have a proud tradition of serving with honour and bravery and in the defence of our country and its freedoms - ironically the very same freedoms that allow characters like Anjem Choudary to hold and express their views."

Wiltshire Muslim group condemn extremist march in Wootton Bassett | Metro.co.uk
 
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The problem is not with Muslims but it's mainly Pakistani and radical one.

Muslims of Iran, Turkey, Malaysia are more like secular and liberal compare with Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Arabi. They are more like Persian, Turk and Malay and religion comes 2nd. Their T.R.F is around 2-2.3 in their own country and same in Europe.

One has to remember than 35%+ Muslims of U.K. are from Pakistan. 15% are from Bangladesh and some more Africa. [These people are real danger for U.K.]

Their production rate is double of Christians, Involved in many crimes and totally Islamist.
The irony in this is Britain is the one who created the radicals. They have to live with the Frankenstein they created.
 

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All western countries are christian nation. Till now they had been confident due to their riches. Now that they are on the roads, religion is the opium of poor will catch up with them. First victim will be the expats.
 

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I would agree with you if you didn't brand all muslims in your judgement. You say muslims demand xyz in uk but are all muslims demanding it or just some of them. If someone posts muslims in good light you say you can post another video where muslim is speaking rubbish. But that shows that there is difference of opinion between both muslims in those videos so why use the extremist one as the sole representation. It is important to make that distinction.

Wiltshire Muslim group condemn extremist march in Wootton Bassett

The Wiltshire Islamic Cultural Centre has asked Wiltshire Police not to allow a planned march through Wootton Bassett to go ahead.

A statement on the group's website said: "We, along with all other Muslim community groups in Wiltshire and the surrounding area, including Bath Islamic Society and Swindon Thamesdown Islamic Association, unreservedly condemn this march and call on the organisers, Islam4UK, to not go ahead with it in the interests of public safety and the Muslims they claim to represent as well as to respect the rights of the people of Wootton Bassett and Wiltshire.

"We will hold Anjem Choudary and al-Muhajiroun responsible for any backlash against any Muslim in Wiltshire or elsewhere as a result of their proposed irresponsible and irrational actions and any insecurity brought upon the majority peaceful Muslim population.

"We strongly request Wiltshire Police to ban the proposed march in the interests of public order, public safety and community cohesion."

The centre said it has the backing of the Call To Islam Centre, in Bury Park, Luton.

The groups said they are willing to stage their own rally to "peacefully counter-demonstrate against Islam4UK" should the march be permitted to go ahead.

Communities Minister Shahid Malik said today: "If people do not support the war, they should direct these views at politicians, not our servicemen and women.

"Our troops have a proud tradition of serving with honour and bravery and in the defence of our country and its freedoms - ironically the very same freedoms that allow characters like Anjem Choudary to hold and express their views."

Wiltshire Muslim group condemn extremist march in Wootton Bassett | Metro.co.uk
i think just yesterday you sad that too gain public sympathy, leverage from govt etc etc people take some populist moves and show false picture of them self
 

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I agree with you but I ask you why do Europeans act like they suddenly woke up to this after 30 million + muslims have migrated to Eurpean nations?? If they had these views they should have molded their immigration policy in that direction?? Demographics is a powerful weapon where the ones with no power are empowered.
Actually, Muslims were only 2%-3% till 90's in Europe. U.K. or any other European countries never thought of radical element in 90's. It's all started after 9/11 and Madrid/London bomb blast. When they see various research, It showing Population increased from 2% to 5% or even more, Crime and extremist in Europe has increased multi-fold and most of these crimes are contributed by Islamist. Also, These people are not helping in Economy but they are burden. (Pakistani, Bangladeshi and African countries are worst in per capita and education in U.K., India is on one of the top 5)

Since, Demography is difficult to reverse as Christians T.F.R. is only 1.6-1.8 in Europe compare with 3++ for Muslims, So if nothing will happen then also Muslim population will increase so demand, extremism. Hence, They started protecting their culture. It's start and they will take many steps going forward.

U.K. government can't throw any Muslim just because he is Muslim. 50% U.K. Muslims are actually hold U.K. passport. Also, It was never threat earlier when population was around 2%. Things changed, So policy and approach !!
 
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Since, Demography is difficult to reverse as Christians T.F.R. is only 1.6-1.8 in Europe compare with 3++ for Muslims, So if nothing will happen then also population will increase. Hence, They started protecting their culture. It's start and they will take many steps going forward.
When European economies go down for a long time, expect more radicalization.More Skinheads.
 

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i think just yesterday you sad that too gain public sympathy, leverage from govt etc etc people take some populist moves and show false picture of them self
I didn't say that...someone else did.

My views are consistent. According to me every religion needs to be smashed to pieces.
 
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Actually, Muslims were only 2%-3% till 90's in Europe. U.K. or any other European countries never thought of radical element in 90's. It's all started after 9/11 and Madrid/London bomb blast. When they see various research, It showing Population increased from 2% to 5%, Crime and extremist in Europe has increased multi-fold and most of these crimes are contributed by Islamist. Also, These people are not helping in Economy but they are burden. (Pakistani, Bangladeshi and African countries are worst in per capita and education in U.K., India is on one of the top 5)

Since, Demography is difficult to reverse as Christians T.F.R. is only 1.6-1.8 in Europe compare with 3++ for Muslims, So if nothing will happen then also Muslim population will increase so demand, extremism. Hence, They started protecting their culture. It's start and they will take many steps going forward.
There is a greater irony in this that Britain is fighting a war on terror however you define it?? While the radicals are living of the government and supporting terrorism and Al-queda openly.
 

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There is greater irony in this that Britain is fighting a war on terror however you define it?? While the radicals are living of the government and supporting terrorism and Al-queda openly.
Well, British are one of the most politically, diplomatically, strategically correct. I personally don't want to them grow northward due to our history but having said that, They know very well what they doing.

Historically, Numbers never make any religion or country superior but Quality, Education, Money and approach do.

Muslims might be 5% or little more in Europe but they control only 1% or Max 2% GDP. 50% of them are not permanent citizen and government can throw them any time. Even Mittal Arcelor holds more value than all Muslims of London combined.

AQ getting lots of support and no doubt in that but They can't do jack in most of the countries. 1 Bomb blast happened in London and then never repeated. If they do any bomb blast, Another Invasion and no one can stop. AQ is helping U.S. and her allies to capture more and helping many countries to start protecting their culture.

50+ Countries, 1.5 Billion population and no country can defeat a tiny Israel with population of 7 Million ? This is failure !!
 
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Well, British are one of the most politically, diplomatically, strategically correct. I personally don't want to them grow northward due to our history but having said that, They know very well what they doing.
They view themselves that way but ask a Northern Irelander and they would not agree. If British secret service could get rid of IRA funded from USA in dollars why are they helpless against the radicals? It is political in many ways with crooked and corrupt British politicians that would make Indian politicians look like school boys.
 

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Did not USA, Canada and Britain provide safe haven to terrorists from around the world? Did not they host Kashmiri, Khalistani terrorists/activists and still do so? Radicalization of Islam in Europe is due to several reasons:
a) Intolerance of whites towards other cultures and imposition of their way of life over others.
b) Political protection of hardliners who took asylum in those countries (others' terrorists).
c) Social and economic backwardness of Muslims in these countries, primarily because most of them are low-skill migrants.

I have always been in favor of pushing the separatists to these "free liberal" states, so that they can make their dreams come true in their adopted homeland. UK's climate is close to Kashmir, may be the separatists will enjoy founding their homeland in UK and staying there forever. I also want Khalistanis to start the movement in Canada, who knows if dream of Independent Khalistan with it's capital in Toronto will come true in not-so-distant future.
 

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