UK ends 'no-contact' policy with Narendra Modi

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Singh ji, I'd like to ask you one question. What do you mean by dharma and why Modi shud apologise as per your definition of dharma?
 

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Modi may very well be blemish free in this whole episode, but ultimate accountability and responsibility does lie with him. Shouldn't he apologize for that ?

Politically by not apologizing he has done a very smart thing but is it compatible with dharma ?

And another question if statecraft is different from dharma, then why this whole charade that people (like offstumped) have pioneered that everything should be based on dharma ?

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More than media, its the people who are asleep. Look at the rape and plunder of the nation under UPA !
Singhji, first let people submit any evidence in court and let court come up with any judgment that it was Modi, who did something wrong.

Without that why should Modi say sorry.

BTW, there are enough evidence available that congress people were also involved in riots in 2002.

I wonder if anybody from the dynasty said sorry for that matter as of today?
 

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On top of that what about congress ruled states like Rajasthan, Maharashtra and MP had have bluntly refused Modi's request to send police force in support of Gujarat police.

If they had send enough police force in 2002, things may have different then. A lot more lives could be saved.

Let congress say sorry for that matter.
 

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Pandu is a proud Hindutvadi and Pandu, believes Modi did the the right thing by not apologizing. Hindutva is based on dharma.

However, what Pandu says makes sense to some when it comes to statecraft but is it dharmic ?
I wouldn't apply the dharmic yardstick to Modi on an isolated cases basis. Specially when no allegation has been proven against him.
What are we asking him to apologise for?
Rest for the complete picture, we can see how Gujarat is doing if we have to evaluate his Raj dharma.
One riot in his state doesn't make him adharmic.

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Virendra
 

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Gujarat can't be ignored, says James Bevan

Manas Dasgupta
Gandhinagar, October 22, 2012


(In this photo released by Gujarat State Information Department, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi shakes hands with British High Commissioner to India James Bevan at Gandhinagar on Monday. ) (source: AP)

British High Commissioner to India James Bevan on Monday called on Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi in Gandhinagar, a move being viewed as the first initiative by the United Kingdom to end the decade-long disconnect with the State since the 2002 communal riots.

Mr. Bevan, who later paid a courtesy call to Governor Kamala Beniwal, besides meeting State Congress president Arjun Modhvadia, was with Mr. Modi for about an hour discussing a wide range of issues where Britain could get engaged with Gujarat in the fields of trade, commerce and industry.

The meeting was cordial and both sides showed keen interest in taking the engagement forward, sources in the Chief Minister's Office said.

Later Mr. Bevan held a media conference here where he pointed out that while his country was now looking at enhancing ties with Gujarat, it would continue to seek justice for the three Britons killed in the 2002 riots, which had caused the end of the relations between the British government and Gujarat.

Mr. Bevan said Mr. Modi had assured justice to the deceased.

The visit of Mr. Bevan, who was only last week directed by the Foreign Office in London to engage with Mr. Modi, is being considered a shot in the arm for the Chief Minister who would be facing the Assembly elections in just about seven weeks. The High Commissioner, however, said Britain had no intention of interfering with the electoral process and he was confident that his visit would not sway Gujarat voters in any way.

Britain, along with the United States, had denied visa to Mr. Modi in the aftermath of the 2002 riots holding him responsible for the violation of human rights.

Mr. Bevan's call on Mr. Modi therefore attracted serious attention as this was widely being viewed as Britain's endorsement of the Chief Minister which can significantly alleviate his status as persona non grata across the countries in the European Union and most importantly the U.S. Mr. Bevan, however, made it clear that while the U.K. had taken a policy decision on its own, each country in the EU was free to take its own decision regarding Mr. Modi and Gujarat.

The envoy said a lot had changed since 2002 as Gujarat had emerged as one of the most developed States of the country and when Britain was looking forward to deepen its engagement with India, Gujarat could not be ignored. He pointed out that with the judicial process to bring the culprits of 2002 to justice having already taken off, Britain had decided to re-engage with Gujarat even while attaching great importance to human rights and the rights of the minorities across the world. As a matter of fact, he said, he had also met some human rights activists and discussed with them his meeting with Mr. Modi.

The High Commissioner said he had accepted Mr. Modi's invitation and Britain would participate in the Vibrant Gujarat investors' summit to be held in January 2013.

"Only a courtesy call"

Minister of State for Railways Bharat Solanki, however, told journalists in Vadodara that there was no meaning in attaching any significance to Mr. Bevan's courtesy call to Mr. Modi though the Chief Minister "as per his characteristics" would try to "make a big noise" over the issue to make people count it as "one of his great achievements."

The Hindu : News / National : Gujarat can't be ignored, says James Bevan
That's why I said.....

Mirchi lagi, Modi haters ko. :p

 

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One sage once was performing tapas having taken such a vow when a king hunting a wild animal crossed that spot where the sage was seated. Beyond that place, the king had no clue where the animal had gone, so he asked the sage who had wide open eyes if he had seen him and which direction he had gone. The sage, who had taken the vow to speak the truth told him, "That which speaks did not see, that which saw cannot speak" - meaning, "the eyes which can only see cannot speak, the mouth which can only speak cannot see". The king did not understand what the sage said and asked him again and again and to this the sage replied the same. Finally the king decided that the sage did not see the animal and left the place. The sage had effectively saved the animal while speaking truth all the time.
Beautiful logic. It just amuses me to see how similar you are to the very same people you hate.. What you have described above is exact same thing as many far righters rant against, i.e. "Taqwa".
 

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Baap bara na bhaiya,the whole thing is that ki bhauya sabse bara ruppiya..:rofl::rofl:
 

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Beautiful logic. It just amuses me to see how similar you are to the very same people you hate.. What you have described above is exact same thing as many far righters rant against, i.e. "Taqwa".
Maybe a better explanation is what is needed. Isn't Taqwa or Taqiyya or whatever the name is, effectively allows lying and cheating to achieve ones objectives?? That is different from the logic applied here.

There are three responses to a question according to the vedic or quantum logic. yes, no and the existence of a third state which can neither fit in either states. In the example given by Pandu, he only told the truth and never lied. The sage just made sure that he didn't lie and at the same time never conveyed the response at the king's level of understanding. The king presumed that the sage didn't see, when he didn't understand the meaning of the sage's words.

That brings us back to the question "Did the sage lie?" The answer is a big 'no'
 

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I have also mentioned, that many muslims believe if Modi comes to power, they will be safer.



Not true. In Sikh riots, many non-Congress party workers were also involved.

Meaning right wind Hindutva chaps?

Seems plausible.

A few such names would be great to have a greater jamboree!
 

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Modi may very well be blemish free in this whole episode, but ultimate accountability and responsibility does lie with him. Shouldn't he apologize for that ?

Politically by not apologizing he has done a very smart thing but is it compatible with dharma ?

And another question if statecraft is different from dharma, then why this whole charade that people (like offstumped) have pioneered that everything should be based on dharma ?

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More than media, its the people who are asleep. Look at the rape and plunder of the nation under UPA !

Who follows dharma in politics ??? Where is dharma at all in Indian polity, right from maahatma gandhi till MMS?

The statecraft requires strong leadership & righteousness in decisions & actions.

Apologizing will not make Modi Dharmic or Adharmic. If Modi apologize it will be his last mistake.Even if Modi apologizes out of humbleness & dharma then congress is going to use it against him only in a adharmic way.
 

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Who follows dharma in politics ??? Where is dharma at all in Indian polity, right from maahatma gandhi till MMS?

The statecraft requires strong leadership & righteousness in decisions & actions.

Apologizing will not make Modi Dharmic or Adharmic. If Modi apologize it will be his last mistake.Even if Modi apologizes out of humbleness & dharma then congress is going to use it against him only in a adharmic way.
Well said. Narendra Modi will be hung and quartered by Congress and corrupt people in this country the day he apologises.
 

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Soon my fellow Nehruvian-minded majority Indians will wake up just like international community is waking up to him.

NaMo all the way!
 

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