UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen

[Bangalorean]

The shia sunni conflict is not so serious to pakistan due to a distinct sunni majority, extremists are a greater threat.

Shia-Sunni conflict arises when there are almost equal populations of each sect with ones rights being suppressed.This is what happened in yemen were shias right s were suppressed due saudi influence as saudi sunni consider shias heretics and not muslims.
Pakistan in the foreseeable future should not have much of a problem due shias being a minority.

If pakistan collapses it wil be VERY bad for india as anti indian terrorist outfits would be able to freely use the area to launch attacks into india in the absence of law and order.

I disagree with this assessment. Stable Pakistan is NOT in India's interest. An unstable tottering Pakistan is in India's interest.

We can protect ourselves from infiltration by ragtag units. They are mere pinpricks. But with the current situation, we have to contend with coordinated and planned infiltration and terror attacks backed by logistical expertise and huge funds.

We are much better off if Pakistan continues to totter on the brink.

 

[Mad Indian]

I disagree with this assessment. Stable Pakistan is NOT in India's interest. An unstable tottering Pakistan is in India's interest.

We can protect ourselves from infiltration by ragtag units. They are mere pinpricks. But with the current situation, we have to contend with coordinated and planned infiltration and terror attacks backed by logistical expertise and huge funds.

We are much better off if Pakistan continues to totter on the brink.

We would be much much better off if Pakistan balkanises. In fact, that is the only way of ensuring Indian security

 

[rockey 71]

Pakistan can ill afford to annoy Iran. Pakistan must also consider that there is a sizable Shia population in the country. Instead S Arabia should contact BD for assistance. We have no sectarian issues, and don't share a border with Iran. We had sent 6,000 troops to fight for S Arabia-Kuwait during Desert Storm; Pakistan had sent no troops. Even now we have a Brigade b in Kuwait.

 

[SADAKHUSH]

UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen

KARACHI: Pakistani lawmakers' call for the government to remain neutral on the escalating crisis in Yemen has evoked a strong response from the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

"The vague and contradictory stands of Pakistan and Turkey are an absolute proof that Arab security — from Libya to Yemen — is the responsibility of none but Arab countries," UAE's Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammed Gargash said.

Speaking to renowned Emirati newspaper Khaleej Times, Garhash warned Pakistan of having to pay a "heavy price" for taking on what he called an "ambiguous stand". He added that Pakistan should take a clear position "in favour of its strategic relations with the six-nation Arab Gulf cooperation Council".

Also read: Parliament's welcome resolution

"The Arabian Gulf is in a dangerous confrontation, its strategic security is on the edge, and the moment of truth distinguishes between the real ally and the ally of media and statements," Gargash tweeted moments after the Pakistani parliament passed the resolution insisting on neutrality in the Yemen conflict.

Gargash went to symbolise Pakistan's resolution as equivalent of siding up with Iran instead of the Gulf. "Tehran seems to be more important to Islamabad and Ankara than the Gulf countries," Gargash said.

"Though our economic and investment assets are inevitable, political support is missing at critical moments," he added.

The statement comes a day after the Parliament passed a unanimous resolution vowing to defend Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity and the holy places of Makkah and Madinah. None of these locations appear to have so far been threatened by the conflict.

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"Pakistan should play a mediating role and not get involved in the fighting in Yemen," the resolution stated, adding that "the Parliament of Pakistan ... underscores the need for continued efforts by the government of Pakistan to find a peaceful resolution of the crisis".

"[Parliament] desires that Pakistan should maintain neutrality in the Yemen conflict so as to be able to play a proactive diplomatic role to end the crisis," it stated.

The Saudi-led coalition launched air strikes against Houthi rebels on March 26 in support of Yemeni President Abedrabbo Mansour Hadi after they seized the capital and forced him to flee to Aden. The government of Pakistan has so far not announced a decision on Saudi Arabia's request for Islamabad to join a coalition fighting Houthi rebels by contributing jets, navy ships and ground troops.


UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

In my opinion the following scenario is underplay some for consumption by Iran and public in general and scolding statements by Arab Kingdoms are for public consumption(Shia population across the globe).

1. The PA is already there along with PAF pilots.
2. Prepare the terrorist group to strike deep inside the Yemen and use Lakhvi to organize it.
3. During the conflict Lakhvi might become a casualty to remove the thorn on Pakistan side which will silence the world's demand to prosecute the mastermind.
4. It was in the news that some of Pakistani's have stayed behind in Yemen. Who are these individuals and how many are there?
5. Are those still in Yemen tools of Pakistan Intelligence agency to assist them in gathering the information to be used by KSA alliance. IMO it is yes.
6. The meeting between Iran and Pakistan was to reassure them that Pakistan will not be sending any PA. If Iran does find out than Pakistan will deny as they always.
7. UAE has the majority Shia population and they are afraid that Iran will encourage them to revolt once again against the Kingdom. The situation might get out of hands if Iran ends up sending the troops in the region. It is the ultimate goal of West and Russia.
8. The West and Russia will gain with higher oil prices and sale of defense ware.
9. Pakistan will also send other mercenaries into Arab land which will make it easier for them to focus on establishing cordial relationship with India as well.
10. Pakistan will be able to charge back to Arab alliance for the services rendered.
11. The Arab countries will also benefit from higher oil price due to war.
12. If the all out war takes place than Arabs will use it to strike Iran's nuclear infrastructure thus achieving their objectives.
13. KSA lead alliance will try to stretch Iran beyond what they can afford.
14. China would like to stay neutral and if they do take sides that will be by supplying defense equipment and than deny it.

Let us see how the situation unfolds.

 

[blueblood]

I really wonder if Saudis have that much control over Pak. Relations been bitter for sometime.
Wasnt it a few months back that the Pak Diplomat has made public statement accusing Saudi.
May be things are not that awesome with Saudi as its perceived largely by the common public of Pak.

The thing is Saudi is the birthplace of Islam hence they can do no wrong at least not in the eyes of 1.6 billion muslims. How many times do you see head of a Muslim state criticizing Saudi policies.

Second, they have been brewing tiny SaudiA all over the world including India. Saw that first hand in my city, which has around 40% muslim population and had many schools and colleges of their own. But something the city never had was 5-6 year old covering their heads. All thanks to "petro dollar donation" for the betterment of community. Having worked there for a month on a construction project, I know that place inside out and the amateur dumbfvcks that run it. The only place I saw a teacher calling the principal of the school XYZ bhai

Eastern Public School

Below are the some examples of Muslim run schools and colleges in the city for decades. All normal and progressive and pretty decent at what they do.

Saifia College

All Saints School, Bhopal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

May be Nawaz didnt share the $1.5 billion it with the Army and others.

He wasn't supposed to. Army get their own funds by acting as "instructors" and "advisers" for the mighty Arabs. It's no secret and it never was that Arabs can't fight. They need someone to save their butts. But the only two muslim countries who know how to fight are Turks and Paki. Now, Turks are proud people and are subservient to no one (which is changing every passing moment). That leaves Pakis and here we are.

Remembered a heavily recycled joke from the Israeli forum.

Q : How do you know it's an Arab tank?

A : It has one forward and five reverse gears?

 

[blueblood]

One dead, 3 wounded in Saudi-Pakistan military training

One dead, 3 wounded in Saudi-Pakistan military training - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

And so it begins.


@rockey 71, I think the "house of Saud" will prefer to commit mass suicide than entrusting Bangladeshi Army with security. Also, aren't you a stranded Bihari? AFAIK, there are no Biharis in the military.

 

[rockey 71]

One dead, 3 wounded in Saudi-Pakistan military training

One dead, 3 wounded in Saudi-Pakistan military training - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

And so it begins.


@rockey 71, I think the "house of Saud" will prefer to commit mass suicide than entrusting Bangladeshi Army with security. Also, aren't you a stranded Bihari? AFAIK, there are no Biharis in the military.

1.Dunno why you would bring the Bihari issue in this? Biharis had supported and fought for Pakistani occupation forces in 1971. Many took part in committing atrocities on Hindus mainly. After Pakistan recognized BD, many had opted for relocating to Pakistan. GOP has not acceded to their request because no province would accept them.
2. Meanwhile they are doing fine in BD where the term mohajir is unknown. They are all voters. In the so called refugee camps they have built high rises for themselves. Being an enterprising lot they even manufacture small items in their location.
3. The important stakeholders, or beneficiaries, for keeping this issue alive are UNHCR, come NGOs and local Bihari community leaders.

 

[Free Karma]

gulftoday.ae | Arab Parliament criticises Pakistan's vote on Yemen

Arab Parliament speaker has expressed disappointment at Pakistan's parliament unanimous vote on Friday to remain neutral in the conflict in Yemen, describing the move as incompatible with the international, Arab and Muslim stance that supports legitimacy in Yemen and aims to strength security and peace in the Arab and Islamic World.

Ahmed Bin Mohammed Al Jarwan said the Arab people had received Pakistan's participation in the Decisive Storm coalition with optimism and enthusiasm in the hope of creating a joint Arab-Islamic force that backs right against whoever tries to tamper with values of Arab and Islamic nations and that supports security and peace across the world.

"The Arab and Muslim people were shocked and disappointed by the Pakistani Parliament decision," he regretted.

He called on the Parliament to fall in line with the will of people in this critical circumstances the Arab and Islamic World is living through and to back the stance of the government and people of Pakistan that supports the Decisive Storm coalition.

"Fall in line".... If Pak doesnt, it is not with the Ummah. So much respect used by the Arab parliament speaker.

 

[sorcerer]

gulftoday.ae | Arab Parliament criticises Pakistan's vote on Yemen


"Fall in line".... If Pak doesnt, it is not with the Ummah. So much respect used by the Arab parliament speaker.

Arab Parliament wants Pakistan to agree in Principal and a total alignment.


This will be a decisive moment for Pak China relationship.

Theres a revival on this line

http://rt.com/business/248313-china-iran-pakistan-gas-pipeline/

 

[Blackwater]

Arabs slam Pak stand on Yemen

CAIRO: -The Arab Parliament (AP) speaker has expressed disappointment at Pakistan's Parliament unanimous vote on Friday to remain neutral in the conflict in Yemen, describing the move as incompatible with the international, Arab and Muslim stance that suppaorts legitimacy in Yemen and aims to strength security and peace in the Arab and Islamic World.

Ahmed Bin Mohammed Al Jarwan said the Arab people had received Pakistan's participation in the Decisive Storm coalition with optimism and enthusiasm in the hope of creating a joint Arab-Islamic force that backs right against whoever tries to tamper with values of Arab and Islamic nations and that supports security and peace across the world.

''The Arab and Muslim people were shocked and disappointed by the Pakistani Parliament decision,'' he regretted.

He called on the Parliament to fall in line with the will of people in this critical circumstances the Arab and Islamic World is living through and to back the stance of the government and people of Pakistan that supports the Decisive Storm coalition.


gulftoday.ae | Arabs slam Pak stand on Yemen



i thought pakistan was thakedar of islami duniya. now it seems its not more than a zamadar

 

[GokuInd]

gulftoday.ae | Arab Parliament criticises Pakistan's vote on Yemen


"Fall in line".... If Pak doesnt, it is not with the Ummah. So much respect used by the Arab parliament speaker.

I rather think the Arab states that take part in their "Operation Decisive Storm" are worried about the lack of concrete results. So far the advance of the Houthis continues unabatedly. So they rely on anyone with decent firepower and the ability to wage war.
Many clearly say Arabs lose wars for various reasons -whether fighting regular armies or irregular groups as explained in this (admittedly old) article:

Why Arabs Lose Wars :: Middle East Quarterly

 

[Blackwater]

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

so much so for Islamic unity and brotherhood. to be honest each country pursues its own agenda. the false aspirations of Pakistani elite to assume leadership role have been laid to rest long time back. its time to face reality.

 

[Zebra]

self delete.

 

[Blackwater]

FO mum over UAE minister's tirade

aunty ko saamp sungh gaya ha:taunt1::taunt1:

FO mum over UAE minister’s tirade - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[Abhijat]

It is a pragmatic step taken by Pakistan.

With U.S , Asia pivot policy, they will be shifting their major forces from gulf , to pacific.

So , a "balance of power" in region , need to be maintained.

With Iran nuclear deal finalized, we can soon see, the "solution" to Syrian problem.

Also, with emerging thaw between Russia and European nations, the energy requirement of Europe need to be taken care from Middle East itself.

So , we have Shia-Sunni , deadlock over , who will be providing for future energy needs of European.

Competitive Shia-Sunni Gas Pipelines Politics? » Indian Defence Review

 

[Rashna]

Take of zaid hamid on UAE's threat. UAE -Machli pakadne wale.


[video=dailymotion;x2mf8hj]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mf8hj_in-main-dam-hi-nahi-hai-yeh-bilkul-farigh-hochuke-hain-aur-pakistan-ke-liye-marey-ja-rahe-hain-zaid_news[/video]

 

[blueblood]

1.Dunno why you would bring the Bihari issue in this? Biharis had supported and fought for Pakistani occupation forces in 1971. Many took part in committing atrocities on Hindus mainly. After Pakistan recognized BD, many had opted for relocating to Pakistan. GOP has not acceded to their request because no province would accept them.
2. Meanwhile they are doing fine in BD where the term mohajir is unknown. They are all voters. In the so called refugee camps they have built high rises for themselves. Being an enterprising lot they even manufacture small items in their location.
3. The important stakeholders, or beneficiaries, for keeping this issue alive are UNHCR, come NGOs and local Bihari community leaders.

Wasn't trying to piss you off, but a Bihari cheering for a Bengali Army is very much akin to me cheering for Pakistani army.

OTOH, while Bangladeshi army is decently trained but is not very well equipped for modern warfare. Also Saudis require boots on the ground something given the smaller size of BA is a difficult proposition.

 

[Compersion]

even the americans did not say such words to the pakis

does uae and gcc not know who they are talking about and referring to. pakistan land of the pure. they have defeated soviet union and also made the americans give them protection money (aid) among many things. the islamic nuke bomb is a copulatory organ that is owned by pakis ... and only the pakis can enjoy its use (even if it is with dysfunction medicine)

watch your words GCC - dont mess with Pakis

 

[warrior monk]

Pakistani troops are already there in Saudi uniform they just don't want to tell everyone overtly especially not Iran. They cannot piss off the Arabs as their 50% defence budget is financed by the Arabs and most importantly their nuclear weapons are completely financed by Saudis , they just do not want to piss off the Shias that's it.