UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen

[Blackwater]

UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen

KARACHI: Pakistani lawmakers' call for the government to remain neutral on the escalating crisis in Yemen has evoked a strong response from the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

"The vague and contradictory stands of Pakistan and Turkey are an absolute proof that Arab security — from Libya to Yemen — is the responsibility of none but Arab countries," UAE's Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammed Gargash said.

Speaking to renowned Emirati newspaper Khaleej Times, Garhash warned Pakistan of having to pay a "heavy price" for taking on what he called an "ambiguous stand". He added that Pakistan should take a clear position "in favour of its strategic relations with the six-nation Arab Gulf cooperation Council".

Also read: Parliament's welcome resolution

"The Arabian Gulf is in a dangerous confrontation, its strategic security is on the edge, and the moment of truth distinguishes between the real ally and the ally of media and statements," Gargash tweeted moments after the Pakistani parliament passed the resolution insisting on neutrality in the Yemen conflict.

Gargash went to symbolise Pakistan's resolution as equivalent of siding up with Iran instead of the Gulf. "Tehran seems to be more important to Islamabad and Ankara than the Gulf countries," Gargash said.

"Though our economic and investment assets are inevitable, political support is missing at critical moments," he added.

The statement comes a day after the Parliament passed a unanimous resolution vowing to defend Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity and the holy places of Makkah and Madinah. None of these locations appear to have so far been threatened by the conflict.

More on this: Not our war

"Pakistan should play a mediating role and not get involved in the fighting in Yemen," the resolution stated, adding that "the Parliament of Pakistan ... underscores the need for continued efforts by the government of Pakistan to find a peaceful resolution of the crisis".

"[Parliament] desires that Pakistan should maintain neutrality in the Yemen conflict so as to be able to play a proactive diplomatic role to end the crisis," it stated.

The Saudi-led coalition launched air strikes against Houthi rebels on March 26 in support of Yemeni President Abedrabbo Mansour Hadi after they seized the capital and forced him to flee to Aden. The government of Pakistan has so far not announced a decision on Saudi Arabia's request for Islamabad to join a coalition fighting Houthi rebels by contributing jets, navy ships and ground troops.


UAE warns Pakistan of ‘heavy price for ambiguous stand’ on Yemen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[Blackwater]

how dare UAE threat leader of muslim umma and thakedar of islami dunia pakistan.


BTW pakis ki aukat pata chal gayi aaj

 

[sorcerer]

Pakistan willl supply Terrorists to fight in Yemen with Saudi Troops.
The release of Lakhvi points in this direction.

 

[Zebra]

^^

That will create more problems.

 

[Ray]

This is real bad news for Pakistan.

It survives on the Gulf.

More inputs how Pakistan will be more ready for their inevitable collapse.

 

[Rowdy]

LoL
Lo ji aukad dekh lo...

 

[ezsasa]

Pakis are no fools they will divert some of their strategic assets like JuD to Yemen from india.

 

[sorcerer]

China has eyes on Irans oil resources. So far China has funded every nation who has an Anti US stance and traded energy from them at cheap rates and committed $s for Infrastructure development. So I wouldnt be surprised if China does the same with Iran.

Pak being with China has more gains than being with Saudi Arabia and other Arab Nations. It can get money just being a transit point for China's energy links plus it get weapons from China plus China pays Pak for being a counter against India.

Alternate for Pak is to support Saudi with ISI controlled terrorist groups but seems like Saudi wants more from the side of Pakistan for gifts received

 

[blueblood]

Pak being with China has more gains than being with Saudi Arabia and other Arab Nations. It can get money just being a transit point for China's energy links plus it get weapons from China plus China pays Pak for being a counter against India.

But you are forgetting that Pakis are Muslims first and pakis second so that will open a huge can of worms especially when gulf countries have a major network for wahabbi madarassas and an army of mard-e-momins like lashkar-e-jhangvi etc who do not report to any establishment.

I don't know where UAE fits into all that but Saudi and lately Qataris have put a ton of money into Pak. The amount $1.5 billion repeatedly quoted is the money given to Nawaz. People of Islamic Republic of Pakistan get money directly.

"Fingers crossed"

 

[26/11]

Also; Majority of sunnis of Pakistan don't even considers Shias as Muslims.. I don't think this sunni wahabis in Pakistan will accept Shia Iran.. One way other other there is going to be sectarian tensions..

 

[Rashna]

Pakistan can kiss free/ cheap oil goodbye if they go against Saudi. Pakistan army is already in Saudi because they have a security pact with Saudi for defending Saudi against aggression. Who knows whether they are fighting in Yemen or not? This might be a public stand taken to fool the world at large (including disgruntled pakistanis). The only thing stopping them for all out support is Iran which is a security threat to pakistan already. Today 20 people were shot dead in balochistan (16 punjabis and 4 sindhis). There is unrest on the iranian border with pakistan. Pakistan fears escalation of violence and shia sunni gang wars within pakistan if it openly supports the anti houthi (shia) war by a largely sunni arab world. They will play their cards well. They are old hands at deception and bloodshed is something that they take for granted by now.

 

[anupamsurey]

UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen

KARACHI: Pakistani lawmakers' call for the government to remain neutral on the escalating crisis in Yemen has evoked a strong response from the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

"The vague and contradictory stands of Pakistan and Turkey are an absolute proof that Arab security — from Libya to Yemen — is the responsibility of none but Arab countries," UAE's Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammed Gargash said.

Speaking to renowned Emirati newspaper Khaleej Times, Garhash warned Pakistan of having to pay a "heavy price" for taking on what he called an "ambiguous stand". He added that Pakistan should take a clear position "in favour of its strategic relations with the six-nation Arab Gulf cooperation Council".

Also read: Parliament's welcome resolution

"The Arabian Gulf is in a dangerous confrontation, its strategic security is on the edge, and the moment of truth distinguishes between the real ally and the ally of media and statements," Gargash tweeted moments after the Pakistani parliament passed the resolution insisting on neutrality in the Yemen conflict.

Gargash went to symbolise Pakistan's resolution as equivalent of siding up with Iran instead of the Gulf. "Tehran seems to be more important to Islamabad and Ankara than the Gulf countries," Gargash said.

"Though our economic and investment assets are inevitable, political support is missing at critical moments," he added.

The statement comes a day after the Parliament passed a unanimous resolution vowing to defend Saudi Arabia's territorial integrity and the holy places of Makkah and Madinah. None of these locations appear to have so far been threatened by the conflict.

More on this: Not our war

"Pakistan should play a mediating role and not get involved in the fighting in Yemen," the resolution stated, adding that "the Parliament of Pakistan ... underscores the need for continued efforts by the government of Pakistan to find a peaceful resolution of the crisis".

"[Parliament] desires that Pakistan should maintain neutrality in the Yemen conflict so as to be able to play a proactive diplomatic role to end the crisis," it stated.

The Saudi-led coalition launched air strikes against Houthi rebels on March 26 in support of Yemeni President Abedrabbo Mansour Hadi after they seized the capital and forced him to flee to Aden. The government of Pakistan has so far not announced a decision on Saudi Arabia's request for Islamabad to join a coalition fighting Houthi rebels by contributing jets, navy ships and ground troops.


UAE warns Pakistan of 'heavy price for ambiguous stand' on Yemen - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Pakistan has got bitch slapped so often that they even dont feel it now. Nawaz was to eager to support Saudi's for some personal gains that he announced it on air before he could consult with his think tank. since pakistan is now officially a "Dhobi ka Kutta" of this world now, i dont pity them, BTW the UAE has put pakis into a dilemma of itself, will they support the gulf council, going against its neighbour (Iran), or they will side with Iran (this looks bleak..as you need to have guts to stand against others).

 

[indiandefencefan]

Pakistan can kiss free/ cheap oil goodbye if they go against Saudi. Pakistan army is already in Saudi because they have a security pact with Saudi for defending Saudi against aggression. Who knows whether they are fighting in Yemen or not? This might be a public stand taken to fool the world at large (including disgruntled pakistanis). The only thing stopping them for all out support is Iran which is a security threat to pakistan already. Today 20 people were shot dead in balochistan (16 punjabis and 4 sindhis). There is unrest on the iranian border with pakistan. Pakistan fears escalation of violence and shia sunni gang wars within pakistan if it openly supports the anti houthi (shia) war by a largely sunni arab world. They will play their cards well. They are old hands at deception and bloodshed is something that they take for granted by now.

You are forgetting that its not just cheap oil they are going to lose but also billions of dollars that that has kept pakistan afloat and prevented it from going bankrupt, Without gulf aid there is a very real chance that pakistan might just collapse which would be disastrous for india.

 

[Rashna]

Pakistan has 2 rulers. One their feudal so called democratic leaders and more important the army. Both these rulers run parallel economies. Both have their independent sources of income which they share amongst each other like booty. The public at large is still languishing in spite of billions of dollars of aid that pakistan has received to date. Lately nawaz sharif's PR has been trying to build an economic miracle story which is partly abetted by this cheap oil, cheap gas (qatar) story. The fact of the matter is the pakistan army and its leaders are on the beck and call and payroll (to be blunt) of Saudi King. So this drama they have done of getting the parliamentarians to not support pakistan army role in yemen is complete hogwash. Pakistani troops have been deployed in Saudi to prevent houthi rebel attacks inside Saudi territory. Also PAF pilots are on loan to the saudi air force. What else is required to be done really? They are already in!

You are forgetting that its not just cheap oil they are going to lose but also billions of dollars that that has kept pakistan afloat and prevented it from going bankrupt, Without gulf aid there is a very real chance that pakistan might just collapse which would be disastrous for india.

 

[sorcerer]

But you are forgetting that Pakis are Muslims first and pakis second so that will open a huge can of worms especially when gulf countries have a major network for wahabbi madarassas and an army of mard-e-momins like lashkar-e-jhangvi etc who do not report to any establishment.

I don't know where UAE fits into all that but Saudi and lately Qataris have put a ton of money into Pak. The amount $1.5 billion repeatedly quoted is the money given to Nawaz. People of Islamic Republic of Pakistan get money directly.

"Fingers crossed"

I really wonder if Saudis have that much control over Pak. Relations been bitter for sometime.
Wasnt it a few months back that the Pak Diplomat has made public statement accusing Saudi.
May be things are not that awesome with Saudi as its perceived largely by the common public of Pak.


May be Nawaz didnt share the $1.5 billion it with the Army and others.

 

[indiandefencefan]

Pakistan has 2 rulers. One their feudal so called democratic leaders and more important the army. Both these rulers run parallel economies. Both have their independent sources of income which they share amongst each other like booty. The public at large is still languishing in spite of billions of dollars of aid that pakistan has received to date. Lately nawaz sharif's PR has been trying to build an economic miracle story which is partly abetted by this cheap oil, cheap gas (qatar) story. The fact of the matter is the pakistan army and its leaders are on the beck and call and payroll (to be blunt) of Saudi King. So this drama they have done of getting the parliamentarians to not support pakistan army role in yemen is complete hogwash. Pakistani troops have been deployed in Saudi to prevent houthi rebel attacks inside Saudi territory. Also PAF pilots are on loan to the saudi air force. What else is required to be done really? They are already in!

Apparently even after all that support the gulf states are not content and i dont really blame them, they should expect something from pakistan in return after all the billions they have poured into it besides the militaries of the gulf states are nothing fancy so they need the support of a regional power to make the operation successful.
We will have to wait and see how all this plays out.

 

[Rashna]

I see the flames of shia sunni conflict burning up pakistan in the days ahead. The problem for pakistan lies in the myriad radical groups which are functioning with impunity inside pakistan and funded by different warring factions namely the wahabis (sauds) and iranians. Sectarian violence and separatism will be the major challenges for them. They cannot avoid being sucked in to this war, because they already sold themselves to the highest bidder. Pakistan will unravel slowly but surely. There is massive discontent among various ethnic groups in pakistan. Their army is conducting operations against Mohajirs (indian muslims) and this group is likely to become one of the biggest achilles heel of pakistan. I don't know whether this is good or bad for India, but i think its high time we stop becoming a victim of such a disaster of a country.

Apparently even after all that support the gulf states are not content and i dont really blame them, they should expect something from pakistan in return after all the billions they have poured into it besides the militaries of the gulf states are nothing fancy so they need the support of a regional power to make the operation successful.
We will have to wait and see how all this plays out.

 

[sorcerer]

^^
Also I heard that the Arab soldiers are lazy , has no discipline and very incompetent.
Tried to find articles to support it
but could only dig this up as direct support

Looking at the track record, it seem almost a universally true rule that Arab convential forces fighitng against Persians/NATO/IDF/African Militias will, somehow, find a way to lose despite overwhelming material advantages. Desert Storm, OIF, Iran/Iraq, all the wars with Israel, Libya/Chad. I'm sure many of you had the misfortune of working with Iraqi loyalists troops, which I never heard a good thing about. I've worked a little with Saudi "military" officers, who were comically stupid and simple. Yet, on the other side of the coin, Arab insurgents have been extremely effective, adaptable, willing to take initiative, exactly the opposite of the military. Where is the disconnect? How can the same culture produce such shit soldiers yet the same men become capable guerrillas?

In summary: conventional Arab militaries, for whatever the reason, do not train to initiative at the lower levels. Essentially all of the Arab militaries react poorly to anything that doesn't go according to plan, and will pass the buck all the way to the top before reacting.

How shitty are they at initiative?

During the 6-Day war the IDF bombed the hell out of Egyptian Air Force on the ground. At one such base the IDF managed to not destroy any aircraft, and the Soviet advisor ran over and told the pilots "look, you need to get these planes in the air. They're gonna fly over to do BDA and you can hit them then." Pilots said they were waiting on instructions from Cairo. IDF plane flies over doing BDA. "Look," said the Soviet, no doubt thinking of the fate of all these planes the USSR gifted "at the very least fly to a airfield further West, so they aren't destroyed if you aren't going to use them." Again, they said no, and sure enough more IDF planes flew over and blew them up on the ground. The Soviet military mission wrote back to Moscow talking about how the Egyptians totally lack all initiative and are pretty much the most shit robotic soldiers on the planet. Keep in mind the reputation the Soviets have about initiative.

The Jordanians always performed the best against the Israelis, and by what is no doubt a amazing coincidence, the Jordanian army(Arab Legion) was riddled with British "advisors" from the late 40s to the mid 60s.

So, why do Insurgents do better then if there is a "cultural initiative" thing?

Well, as we all know, conventional militaries are reasonably strict hierarchies. Insurgencies aren't. They are much, much flatter. They don't always have someone to pass the buck to, and even if they did, they don't always have a radio to call all the way back to the general staff. The very nature of how insurgencies are organized compared to conventional militaries means that they are essentially forced to show initiative far more frequently, and their are less likely to get dressed-down/killed by their boss.

EDIT: I should add that, ironically Iraq and Syria have historically had excellant quartermaster corps. For some reason the two Baathist Regimes were able to largely maintain their own equipment and keep people supplied. Meanwhile the Saudis "lease" entire Pakistani battalions of mechanics and the Libyans used to pay the East Germans a lot of cash to maintain their Soviet era stuff. Both Syria and Iraq suffered from the same initiative problems the other Arab conventional forces did though.

Why is it that Arab soldiers are so woefully incompetent while Arab insurgents have been extremely effective? : Military

This could be another reason why the UAE wants its paid thugs, the PA.

 

[indiandefencefan]

I see the flames of shia sunni conflict burning up pakistan in the days ahead. The problem for pakistan lies in the myriad radical groups which are functioning with impunity inside pakistan and funded by different warring factions namely the wahabis (sauds) and iranians. Sectarian violence and separatism will be the major challenges for them. They cannot avoid being sucked in to this war, because they already sold themselves to the highest bidder. Pakistan will unravel slowly but surely. There is massive discontent among various ethnic groups in pakistan. Their army is conducting operations against Mohajirs (indian muslims) and this group is likely to become one of the biggest achilles heel of pakistan. I don't know whether this is good or bad for India, but i think its high time we stop becoming a victim of such a disaster of a country.

The shia sunni conflict is not so serious to pakistan due to a distinct sunni majority, extremists are a greater threat.

Shia-Sunni conflict arises when there are almost equal populations of each sect with ones rights being suppressed.This is what happened in yemen were shias right s were suppressed due saudi influence as saudi sunni consider shias heretics and not muslims.
Pakistan in the foreseeable future should not have much of a problem due shias being a minority.

If pakistan collapses it wil be VERY bad for india as anti indian terrorist outfits would be able to freely use the area to launch attacks into india in the absence of law and order.

 

[Rashna]

They have a proxy war going on. These militant groups are funded by foreigners and militancy in pakistan has not just ethnic pakistanis but several other nationalities including central asians. Imagine how easy it will be for ISIS to penetrate here. The fact is that the battle is for establishment of sharia or islamic law. What else is the Taliban doing in afghanistan but enforcing Sharia? I think Pakistan might face a situation quite like that when Islamic tribesmen first attacked northern india. This time it will be a war between muslims. Pakistan has never had the guts to fight the extremist islamic groups. It prefers to play friends with them and then backstabs them when they get paid dollars. Eventually this fire will blow in to India so it is NOT a good thing but only time will tell whether the Mahabharata is set to repeat itself.

The shia sunni conflict is not so serious to pakistan due to a distinct sunni majority, extremists are a greater threat.

Shia-Sunni conflict arises when there are almost equal populations of each sect with ones rights being suppressed.This is what happened in yemen were shias right s were suppressed due saudi influence as saudi sunni consider shias heretics and not muslims.
Pakistan in the foreseeable future should not have much of a problem due shias being a minority.

If pakistan collapses it wil be VERY bad for india as anti indian terrorist outfits would be able to freely use the area to launch attacks into india in the absence of law and order.