I can compare it to Kilo as that is the same submarine Russia offers to this day. The only difference is a refit Mod that doesn't even bring it digital. The last two Lada are going to have the same propulsion and sonar as the Kilo Mod, if they can't work all the bugs out of the digital system they will still be analogue.
no u cant compare it with KILO as scorpene is a new gen of submarine & russia is not offering kilo but amur sub ,which is a new gen of sub .
Well amur has AIP propulsion while it is not present in KILO .& AMUR has a new generation of sonar called LIRA sonar while KILO doesnt has that quality of sonar .
Every type India has bought from the US and France is a result of Russia's failure to offer a modern product.
no failure is not the reason, but india want to diversify it's sources to avoid monoppoly & not to put all eggs in one basket .Russia has provided such technology which no country can dare to give us , like leasing of NUKE subs , supersonic cruise missile technology ,many more BLAH ,....BLAH
Lame when the examples CAN'T buy anything else.
well there many more countries apart from china & iran like
Polish Navy
Romanian Naval Forces
Algerian National Navy
Vietnamese People's Navy
KILO sub was a succesful submarine of it's time
well the chinese incoporated or copied many technology on kilo sub to their indigenious SSk subs
Now u tell me why did pakistan bought german DM2 torpedoes when they could have bought french torpedoes for their AGOSTA 90B sub ??? becoz they want better quality products
But Russia is buying licensed production which they add to that number. If it is assembled in Russia, they count its full value as an export. All the Catherine FC, Damocles, Turbomeca engines and SIGMA INS they sell they put on that tab. Knock off close to a billion right there. Their exports are high but their imports are increasing lowering their surplus. This year they will be ordering $1.7 billion worth of Mistrals, $50m Thales comms gear, $211 million light French helos, $80m Turbomeca engines, $40m Sagem INS, $20m Domacles targeting pods.. then they are ordering a thousand IVECO, thousands of sniper rifles and likely Israeli UAVs. This is several billion dollars of what Russia can't make modern, and their land armaments have fallen off a cliff. The complaint ratio of defective equipment is up 20% to 3000 over last year. Fulfillment of 2011 orders failed by 30%, worse than last year. We are seeing mass suspension and delays of programmes because the MIC is unable to deliver modern products.
yes no doubt russia is buying weapons also from french & israelis but recenty isreal scrapped that UAV deal in response to russian sell of supersonic cruise missile to SYRIA .But still russia is the key player in weapons market no matter even if they buy weapons , they still offer comparitively modern weapons at a cheaper price than it's western counterparts
It wasn't rejected for economical reason, they were TECHNICAL reasons.
yes no doubt about it , but u cant rule out economic reasons as they didnt even have money to fund AKULA II nuke sub & wanted india to fund it & we did .Also they are more interested & want to utilize their fund in building new gen NUCLEAR sub compare to SSKs sub
Sure, French problems = 6 months delay while Russian problems = 6 years delay.
well the big problem is not about delay but technical problems that is marring both Scopene subs & also AMUR subs .well BTW about delay u should look the link posted by brahmos about scorpene delay
How can u say it 6 months