TTP invites Baloch Rebels to join hands against Pakistani state

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TTP and Balouch rebels are different, balouchistan are a secular people not like TTP religious radicals.
 

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TTP and Baloch freedom fighters can be ideologically different but both them have a common enemy, the pak state, So, I dont discard a tactical alliance.

Each group fighting the pak state lonely is what pakis wants, for this way opposition remain divided and is easer to paki smash them.
 

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TTP and Baloch freedom fighters can be ideologically different but both them have a common enemy, the pak state, So, I dont discard a tactical alliance.

Each group fighting the pak state lonely is what pakis wants, for this way opposition remain divided and is easer to paki smash them.
Baloch separatists are not religious hardliners/Islamists like the Taliban.
 

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If TTP means tehreek taleban pakistan (?), then the Baloch would do well to stay clear of them

Baloch Freedom Fighters should make a case of their own to the international community.

There are enough international vested interest in a free Baluchistan, so the support will come, and there's
no need to get entangled with a tainted TTP. .
 

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I hope the TTP does not corrupt the mentality of Baloch rebels.
 

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Baloch separatists are not religious hardliners/Islamists like the Taliban.
They are ideologically differents, very differents, so what? What matters is that pak is a common enemie of both. Enemie of my enemie is my friend. So the political struggle works.

Two political groups have a different ideology dont prevent them by cooperate with each other.

Syrian opposition have a position different of the extremists of Al Nusra/Al Qaeda. But even so they joint their forces to fight Assad gov. In Ukraine we also saw liberals, neo-nazists, nationalists, etc, joining forces to overthrow Yanukovich.
 

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They are ideologically differents, very differents, so what? What matters is that pak is a common enemie of both. Enemie of my enemie is my friend. So the political struggle works.

Two political groups have a different ideology dont prevent them by cooperate with each other.

Syrian opposition have a position different of the extremists of Al Nusra/Al Qaeda. But even so they joint their forces to fight Assad gov. In Ukraine we also saw liberals, neo-nazists, nationalists, etc, joining forces to overthrow Yanukovich.
Well, in theory you are right. An enemy of my enemy is my friend, however, this logic does not apply in this case. Taliban's main objective is not to overthrow the Pakistani government; it is to enforce sharia law and turn Pakistan into a poor version of Saudi Arabia. Their whole existence is grounded on fundamentalist wahabi ideology. The rebels in Syria are also literally fighting for their existence in an all out civil war. Pakistan has not descended into a full blown civil war, and therefore the urgency to forge difficult alliances just isn't there. There is also the problem of ethnicity. Taliban is comprised primarily of pashtuns who do not get along all that well with the Baloch people anyway. In Quetta, I believe there are ethnic tensions between the two communities and the Baloch see the Pashtuns as encroaching on their land.
 
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TTP and Balouch rebels are different, balouchistan are a secular people not like TTP religious radicals.
The TTP may not be secular, but they are honest. Pakistanis - the army and Bunjabi politicians are not secular eithr - they are fundamentalists who are pretending to be secular to get money fom USA.
 

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Well, in theory you are right. An enemy of my enemy is my friend, however, this logic does not apply in this case. Taliban's main objective is not to overthrow the Pakistani government; it is to enforce sharia law and turn Pakistan into a poor version of Saudi Arabia. Their whole existence is grounded on fundamentalist wahabi ideology. The rebels in Syria are also literally fighting for their existence in an all out civil war. Pakistan has not descended into a full blown civil war, and therefore the urgency to forge difficult alliances just isn't there. There is also the problem of ethnicity. Taliban is comprised primarily of pashtuns who do not get along all that well with the Baloch people anyway. In Quetta, I believe there are ethnic tensions between the two communities and the Baloch see the Pashtuns as encroaching on their land.
Pakistan was set up in the name of Islam. the TTP are being honest. they deserve a chance to run Pakistan. The Paki army's pretence of secularism earned them dollars and srms aid from the US to fight India. The TTP will not get that and they might be in a better position to develop Pakistan which is a sinking, failing state
 

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Pakistan was set up in the name of Islam. the TTP are being honest. they deserve a chance to run Pakistan. The Paki army's pretence of secularism earned them dollars and srms aid from the US to fight India. The TTP will not get that and they might be in a better position to develop Pakistan which is a sinking, failing state
Only problem is the nuclear weapons. If they fall into TTP's hands, those freaking extremists might launch them.
 

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If TTP means tehreek taleban pakistan (?), then the Baloch would do well to stay clear of them

Baloch Freedom Fighters should make a case of their own to the international community.

There are enough international vested interest in a free Baluchistan, so the support will come, and there's
no need to get entangled with a tainted TTP. .
Dear, the crippled TTP is in desperate need to seek new alliances as her bomb making infrastructure is almost completely destroyed in FATA. There are several (foreign) terrorist organisation eyeing alliances with rebels in Pakistan but none will succeed, spexially with BLA which is a very small organisation run by ths Bhugtis and Marris. Balochi people are among the most patriotic Pakistanis with a sizeable representation in the armed forces.

US senator Dana Rohrabacher, a jew, is among the noisiest people supporting the Baloch cause in US senate but sofar he has failed to internationalise the issue or to have any serious bill passed in the senate.

With the discovery of worlds fifth largest deposits of gold and copper in Reko-Diq and Saindaq in Chaghai disteict, all eyes are on Balochistan hence the reason we are spending big money on PSDP as well as military infrastructure in the region. The value of both fields is estimated to be over $500 billion each and this is only gold and copper. There are other vast reserves of lithium, thorium, bauxiet, uranium, coal, gas and possibly oil. So Balochistan is going nowhere. We will fight to the last Pakistani to protect Balochistan.
 
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This is not a nuclear science, if enemy is Bigger they(BLA&TTP) compel to form a alliance of convenience to fight against common enemy (PA)
both parties working style 99% same like Arms,Drugs,extortion&Killings :rofl:

I don't know why many thinks ISIS,Taliban,Let etc groups are RELIGIOUS,yup they justify their action according to Kuran but u clearly see some covert support from Political powers behind these groups
The bold part is true ..... But most of their ideology comes from their religious texts.
 

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Dear, the crippled TTP is in desperate need to seek new alliances as her bomb making infrastructure is almost completely destroyed in FATA. There are several (foreign) terrorist organisation eyeing alliances with rebels in Pakistan but none will succeed, spexially with BLA which is a very small organisation run by ths Bhugtis and Marris. Balochi people are among the most patriotic Pakistanis with a sizeable representation in the armed forces.

US senator Dana Rohrabacher, a jew, is among the noisiest people supporting the Baloch cause in US senate but sofar he has failed to internationalise the issue or to have any serious bill passed in the senate.

With the discovery of worlds fifth largest deposits of gold and copper in Reko-Diq and Saindaq in Chaghai disteict, all eyes are on Balochistan hence the reason we are spending big money on PSDP as well as military infrastructure in the region. The value of both fields is estimated to be over $500 billion each and this is only gold and copper. There are other vast reserves of lithium, thorium, bauxiet, uranium, coal, gas and possibly oil. So Balochistan is going nowhere. We will fight to the last Pakistani to protect Balochistan.
We have been hearing for ages about huge mineral deposits but till date there is no progress. It begs to reason that exploiting these resources would be no. 1 priority for the GOP.

A country of over 100 Million people having a peak power requirement of under 20,000 MW-- huge deposits in Thar/Balochistan, nothing really adds up. Care to shed some light on this.
 

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We have been hearing for ages about huge mineral deposits but till date there is no progress. It begs to reason that exploiting these resources would be no. 1 priority for the GOP.

A country of over 100 Million people having a peak power requirement of under 20,000 MW-- huge deposits in Thar/Balochistan, nothing really adds up. Care to shed some light on this.
Both mines have entered production phase with chinese assistance but the project failed to attract huge investments due to political and security concerns in the region. Baloch Provincial govt repetedly blocked mining deals with China, Australia and Chile as she's demanding more than 2% share of revenues she currently holds in existing mining laws.
The Federal govt brokered a deal with the provincial govt in 2011 to raise Baloch stake to 35% but demanded 30 billion rupees to be returned to the Federal govt which she had invested in developping the fields. Balochistan only paid 5 billion and ran out of money and stalled the project again.
 

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Of course their religious book is Terrorist Manuel but who is adding OIL to this fire by supplying weapons to these ppl..... Pork!s claim it is RAW i hope it is true :thumb:
There are lot of nations which are interested in that region, Balouch people do have good relations with India and are also moderate.
 

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Both mines have entered production phase with chinese assistance but the project failed to attract huge investments due to political and security concerns in the region. Baloch Provincial govt repetedly blocked mining deals with China, Australia and Chile as she's demanding more than 2% share of revenues she currently holds in existing mining laws.
The Federal govt brokered a deal with the provincial govt in 2011 to raise Baloch stake to 35% but demanded 30 billion rupees to be returned to the Federal govt which she had invested in developping the fields. Balochistan only paid 5 billion and ran out of money and stalled the project again.
and still u r optimistic about pakistan:rofl::rofl:
 

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